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Re: "Bypass" signs

Post by Bryn666 » Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:41

crazyknightsfan wrote:
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I believe the "bypass" signs were in use in certain Australian states before 1987, so this might be the only(?) example of an Australian signing practice being adopted in the UK rather than the other way around?

I'm not quite sure when they first appeared in Australia (probably Victoria) but they were incorporated in the first AS1742.8 (1990) but not in the preceding standard from 1978.
I'm not sure of the origins of the sign here, but it is plausible. Incidentally, Australia and New Zealand are probably the best two examples of 'new world' signage systems. The USA and Canada could learn something.
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Re: "Bypass" signs

Post by Chris5156 » Wed Jul 28, 2021 15:15

Bryn666 wrote:
Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:41
Incidentally, Australia and New Zealand are probably the best two examples of 'new world' signage systems. The USA and Canada could learn something.
I've always really liked the Australian method of putting the name of a road alongside its route number or shield - really useful, in some situations.

In the UK it would clash with Guildford patching if we did exactly what they do, but there's probably some way of working it in.

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Re: "Bypass" signs

Post by SouthWest Philip » Wed Jul 28, 2021 18:20

Chris5156 wrote:
Wed Jul 28, 2021 15:15
I've always really liked the Australian method of putting the name of a road alongside its route number or shield - really useful, in some situations.

In the UK it would clash with Guildford patching if we did exactly what they do, but there's probably some way of working it in.
It's been done before...
"London Orbital", in that case placed above the road number.

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Re: "Bypass" signs

Post by Chris Bertram » Wed Jul 28, 2021 18:38

SouthWest Philip wrote:
Wed Jul 28, 2021 18:20
Chris5156 wrote:
Wed Jul 28, 2021 15:15
I've always really liked the Australian method of putting the name of a road alongside its route number or shield - really useful, in some situations.

In the UK it would clash with Guildford patching if we did exactly what they do, but there's probably some way of working it in.
It's been done before...
"London Orbital", in that case placed above the road number.
"Ring Road" in numerous places, sometimes with the road number, sometimes not.
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Re: "Bypass" signs

Post by crazyknightsfan » Thu Jul 29, 2021 03:14

Bryn666 wrote:
Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:41
Incidentally, Australia and New Zealand are probably the best two examples of 'new world' signage systems. The USA and Canada could learn something.
I am no doubt biased, but I wholeheartedly agree.

Australian and New Zealand signage tends to hit the balance between sufficient destination/route information and readable signs. UK signs tend to be too overloaded with destination information for me to realistically take it all in at driving speeds, and US/Canada signage is too limited with the information provided. A giant BGS with nothing more than a route shield, cardinal direction and an arrow isn't necessary the best use of signing.

Having said that, Australian signage definitely suffers from non-compliance and outright ignorance of our very lenient standards and guidelines in much the same way as all the 'Botched Signs' examples.

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Re: "Bypass" signs

Post by JohnnyMo » Thu Jul 29, 2021 08:41

IIRC, there used to be an old fashioned Bypass sign here. Probably removed when the A46 was upgraded in the 90's or 00's I guess. Slip road was signed Newark, A1 was signed Newark By-Pass.
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