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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Chris5156 » Thu Aug 05, 2021 00:03

the cheesecake man wrote:
Wed Aug 04, 2021 22:23
And here's a nomination for the most unnecessary abbreviation. Having managed to write out Hartshead Moor Top in full, just why couldn't the painters write Cleckheaton properly as well? :ipunch:
It m'kes absolutely no s'nse.

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by SteelCamel » Thu Aug 05, 2021 16:32

the cheesecake man wrote:
Wed Aug 04, 2021 22:23
No road numbers for Leeds or Dewsbury. Why were the designers so sheepish here at Chain Baa?
I notice the small sign underneath "Emmet's Reach follow Leeds A58". Which is all very well, but "Leeds A58" doesn't appear on the sign, you can choose "Leeds M62" or "Leeds".

The next sign does include "Leeds A58" - but which lane do I want for Dewsbury? And why does the first exit now go to "Low Moor" not "Bradford"?

Also the first sign shows the non-motorway routes to Bradford and Leeds as primary, but they become non-primary once you reach the roundabout.

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Big Nick » Thu Aug 05, 2021 21:30

Conekicker wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 21:56
Big L wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 21:29
Anyone tell me what the hazard is?
Looking at the opposite direction, presumably this:

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.0720172 ... 384!8i8192

Although the supplementary plates should be a single one, stating, "Pedestrians crossing 200 yards" or "yds" depending on which gives the best fit.

Edit: Quickly bodging a plate together in CAD, it would be "yards", with a 2 stroke width vertical gap between "crossing" and the distance. TSM7, para 2.5.3 and Figure 2-5 refer.
Did you not see this as you drove past?! :wink: :lol:
https://goo.gl/maps/qeZasoszmH6oEA1f7

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Conekicker » Thu Aug 05, 2021 21:34

Dear god!
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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Jonathan24 » Thu Aug 05, 2021 22:48

Big Nick wrote:
Thu Aug 05, 2021 21:30
Conekicker wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 21:56
Big L wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 21:29
Anyone tell me what the hazard is?
Looking at the opposite direction, presumably this:

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.0720172 ... 384!8i8192

Although the supplementary plates should be a single one, stating, "Pedestrians crossing 200 yards" or "yds" depending on which gives the best fit.

Edit: Quickly bodging a plate together in CAD, it would be "yards", with a 2 stroke width vertical gap between "crossing" and the distance. TSM7, para 2.5.3 and Figure 2-5 refer.
Did you not see this as you drove past?! :wink: :lol:
https://goo.gl/maps/qeZasoszmH6oEA1f7
Looking at the street view images, I think its safe to say that it's not oft used!

The 2009 imagery show some kind of rough track but by 2020, it's all but gone.

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.0718809 ... 312!8i6656

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Skermington » Fri Aug 06, 2021 16:52

Helpfully blurred by GSV, but this is one of many North/West Norfolk Give Way signs to feature the 142 yard advanced warning. (At least the triangle is the right way up now!). One sign like that, I thought maybe an overly precise measurement, but this isn't isolated. 142 yards doesn't even equate to a reasonable number of metres!

Another all-too-familiar mistake.

Some alignment and spacing issues?

Missing a :!: symbol. Scrolling back through the years, doesn't look like it has faded over time.

Hmm...

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by the cheesecake man » Sat Aug 07, 2021 13:07

SteelCamel wrote:
Thu Aug 05, 2021 16:32
next sign[/url] does include "Leeds A58" - but which lane do I want for Dewsbury?
Or M62 West?
And why does the first exit now go to "Low Moor" not "Bradford"?
Perhaps when a station was opened at Low Moor someone decided more people might be looking for it. That's no excuse for the inconsistency.

Also the first sign shows the non-motorway routes to Bradford and Leeds as primary, but they become non-primary once you reach the roundabout.
OS think Leeds A58 and Dewsbury A638 are non-primary while Low Moor is unclassified. Again there's no excuse for the woolly signing at Chain Baa.

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by TS » Sun Aug 08, 2021 01:40

I'd like an opinion on this sign from a Welsh language expert:

I know that the first letter of some Welsh words can mutate in certain grammatical cases:
Cymru (Wales) : Croeso i Gymru (Welcome to Wales)
Tref (town) : canol y dref (town centre)
and another is M to F, as in
Mair (Mary) : Llanfair (church of St Mary)

I've seen 'miles' expressed variously on signs as "x milltir" and "x filltir", but this sign has both, one in each direction.

Can anyone tell me which is correct, or if either is acceptable?
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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Conekicker » Sun Aug 08, 2021 07:12

TS wrote:
Sun Aug 08, 2021 01:40
I'd like an opinion on this sign from a Welsh language expert:

I know that the first letter of some Welsh words can mutate in certain grammatical cases:
Cymru (Wales) : Croeso i Gymru (Welcome to Wales)
Tref (town) : canol y dref (town centre)
and another is M to F, as in
Mair (Mary) : Llanfair (church of St Mary)

I've seen 'miles' expressed variously on signs as "x milltir" and "x filltir", but this sign has both, one in each direction.

Can anyone tell me which is correct, or if either is acceptable?
P1260669.JPG
See the link below:

https://gov.wales/sites/default/files/p ... plates.pdf

So it looks very much like both signs are botched, (and I'm no Welsh language expert!).
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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Skermington » Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:41

One of these signs is not like the other.

Unnecessary border.

Inverse colours on the M6 Junction 2 sign.

Borders too thick? Also, something about the different sizes of fonts within the Bedworth patch irks me a little. Compare the B's.

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by TS » Mon Aug 09, 2021 17:02

I can't locate them on StreetView now, but travelling eastbound on the M4 in Wales, there is a sign saying
Services / Gwasanaethau .... 20m
where the "20m" is in normal sized font but really scrunched up.

Then a bit further along there is
Services
Gwasanaetuahu
...and alongside them a really teeny weeny "11m" much too small to be of use and really odd.

Not sure if these are to the same services as each other (i.e. the second 9 miles on from the first).

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Conekicker » Mon Aug 09, 2021 17:25

TS wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 17:02
I can't locate them on StreetView now, but travelling eastbound on the M4 in Wales, there is a sign saying
Services / Gwasanaethau .... 20m
where the "20m" is in normal sized font but really scrunched up.

Then a bit further along there is
Services
Gwasanaetuahu
...and alongside them a really teeny weeny "11m" much too small to be of use and really odd.

Not sure if these are to the same services as each other (i.e. the second 9 miles on from the first).
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.66846 ... 6656?hl=en

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.57094 ... 8192?hl=en
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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by TS » Mon Aug 09, 2021 18:23

Conekicker wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 17:25
TS wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 17:02
I can't locate them on StreetView now, but travelling eastbound on the M4 in Wales, there is a sign saying
Services / Gwasanaethau .... 20m
where the "20m" is in normal sized font but really scrunched up.

Then a bit further along there is
Services
Gwasanaetuahu
...and alongside them a really teeny weeny "11m" much too small to be of use and really odd.

Not sure if these are to the same services as each other (i.e. the second 9 miles on from the first).
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.66846 ... 6656?hl=en

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.57094 ... 8192?hl=en
Thanks - the second one really wrongfooted me for a moment, because the words are recognisable long before the number is legible. Until up close, you could easily be forgiven for thinking that the services were actually imminent - especially as there is a junction off-slip coming up.

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by jervi » Tue Aug 10, 2021 14:16

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.78539 ... 384!8i8192
1. Roundabout drawing is completely wrong
2. 12 destinations on sign
3. London and (A22) are not aligned
4. (Pier) is not a cardinal direction last time I checked
5. Road number to the left is absent (A2290)

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by dseagull » Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:47

jervi wrote:
Tue Aug 10, 2021 14:16
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.78539 ... 384!8i8192
1. Roundabout drawing is completely wrong
2. 12 destinations on sign
3. London and (A22) are not aligned
4. (Pier) is not a cardinal direction last time I checked
5. Road number to the left is absent (A2290)
Not to mention (he said facetiously), the name is wrong. Everyone knows it is either the Birds Eye Roundabout or the MFI Roundabout depending on how old you are :wink:

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Bryn666 » Wed Aug 11, 2021 14:40

Chris5156 wrote:
Thu Aug 05, 2021 00:03
the cheesecake man wrote:
Wed Aug 04, 2021 22:23
And here's a nomination for the most unnecessary abbreviation. Having managed to write out Hartshead Moor Top in full, just why couldn't the painters write Cleckheaton properly as well? :ipunch:
It m'kes absolutely no s'nse.
It's c'heating.
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Re: Botched Roadsigns

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Big L » Thu Aug 12, 2021 17:49

Font

Doesn't look quite right and there were a few of these around!

A lovely double negative but is this sign (and many others) otherwise legitimate?
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