Botched Roadsigns

[Viator]

This is surely, being charitable, an "inventive" use of the direction arrow??

https://goo.gl/maps/jKgk5qtfJ5Q2

Perhaps the person responsible had some training in the Czech Republic -- the only country in the world that I know of that makes regular use of
this kind of thing.

[Arcuarius]

This is surely, being charitable, an "inventive" use of the direction arrow??

https://goo.gl/maps/jKgk5qtfJ5Q2

Perhaps the person responsible had some training in the Czech Republic -- the only country in the world that I know of that makes regular use of
this kind of thing.

Is it bad that I kinda like that??

[Conekicker]

As I think you imply, "no entry" painted on the road is not a legal sign in itself.

It is a perfectly legal sign, it's Diagram 1046 and may be used on it's own, without the vertical Diagram 616. Whether it's wise to do so is another matter...

[Viator]

Perhaps the person responsible had some training in the Czech Republic -- the only country in the world that I know of that makes regular use of
this kind of thing.

Is it bad that I kinda like that??

No, I find it quite neat too ...except that it's an ADS (typically placed, in the Czech Republic, some 150 metres in advance of the actual junction) and there is almost never any directional signage at the intersection itself. That's why I always say that you need a good memory when driving in the CR: make a firm mental note of those directions now, because there'll be no reminders once you get to the crossroads!

[Johnathan404]

Caution: Portsmouth City Council have tried to put up a new sign for the M275

[jimboLL]

Is this right and proper? The tautology suggests not.

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.6792625 ... 384!8i8192

[Brigham]

Caution: Portsmouth City Council have tried to put up a new sign for the M275

Another example of a perfectly clear and unambiguous road sign.
Excellent. If all signs were of this quality, travel would be so much easier.

[Johnathan404]

Caution: Portsmouth City Council have tried to put up a new sign for the M275

Another example of a perfectly clear and unambiguous road sign.
Excellent. If all signs were of this quality, travel would be so much easier.

I'd say it is very ambiguous as to where motorway regulations begin; important information for some. It's not as if breaking the rules has made the sign clearer, because it hasn't.

If you wanted to make the motorway - clearly the key exit here - obvious, you would use a big blue patch, not a comparatively tiny one.

[nowster]

Caution: Portsmouth City Council have tried to put up a new sign for the M275

Another example of a perfectly clear and unambiguous road sign.
Excellent. If all signs were of this quality, travel would be so much easier.

I think it might be missing a couple of chopsticks panels?

[Chris5156]

Caution: Portsmouth City Council have tried to put up a new sign for the M275

Another example of a perfectly clear and unambiguous road sign.
Excellent. If all signs were of this quality, travel would be so much easier.

I understand that you personally don't mind if a sign doesn't conform to legal standards, but you'll find you're swimming against the tide in this specific thread.

Plus - that sign might be clear and unambiguous in terms of telling you which exit to take from the roundabout for which destination, and I don't dispute that it is, but if it were properly designed and conformed to the regulations, it would also tell you whether or not any exits from the roundabout led directly onto a motorway. Indeed, legally speaking, it has to tell you that because some of the exits do lead directly on to a motorway, and that information is important for any road user who wishes to go to one of the listed destinations but cannot use a motorway. Instead, it indicates that two exits are for the M275, but not whether either exit is the M275, or whether it just leads to it via other all-purpose roads. That actually is ambiguous, and just because it doesn't matter to you personally doesn't mean it doesn't matter!

[Chris5156]

Elsewhere... right sign, right symbol, right location, even the right colours... just not the right colours the right way round.

(We probably shouldn't get too bogged down in whether those places appear on any other signs further down the road, because they don't.)

[Nathan_A_RF]

I'd like to suggest this as the most botched sign on the A21, on the new North Farm interchange on the recently dualled section. Anyone want to see how many errors there are? Well for one, the top panel can be omitted as we just left the main carriageway and it's a waste of material (I doubt anyone will take this as a wrong exit)
https://i.imgur.com/MsnngqS.jpg

[crazyknightsfan]

I'd like to suggest this as the most botched sign on the A21, on the new North Farm interchange on the recently dualled section. Anyone want to see how many errors there are? Well for one, the top panel can be omitted as we just left the main carriageway and it's a waste of material (I doubt anyone will take this as a wrong exit)
https://i.imgur.com/MsnngqS.jpg

Oh boy!
Guess which approach leg you might be on - you've got 2 choices

[ellandback]

Turn right for "all primary routes" (apart from the one for which you have to turn left).

[Big L]

Turn right for "all primary routes" (apart from the one for which you have to turn left).

The right turn sign points you at a road with a 'no motor vehicles' sign (no stunt motorcycles) with a very wordy sign that says the restriction is only active for 8 or maybe 6 hours per week. More confusing than botched, granted.

[ellandback]

I hadn't noticed that. Having studied it at far greater length than I would ever be able to do if I was driving, I don't think that sign actually says what it means to say. I'm fairly sure it's meant to cover weekend nights (Fri/Sat, Sat/Sun and Sun/Mon) between 10pm and 5am.

So at (say) 3am on Friday, or 11pm on Monday, you should be OK.

But that's not what the sign actually says. Well, arguably that's not what it says. Ambiguous, at best.

[Chris Bertram]

I hadn't noticed that. Having studied it at far greater length than I would ever be able to do if I was driving, I don't think that sign actually says what it means to say. I'm fairly sure it's meant to cover weekend nights (Fri/Sat, Sat/Sun and Sun/Mon) between 10pm and 5am.

So at (say) 3am on Friday, or 11pm on Monday, you should be OK.

But that's not what the sign actually says. Well, arguably that's not what it says. Ambiguous, at best.

But then the signs at the entrance to the street only note the 10pm-midnight restriction, and not the midnight to 5am restriction at all. Very confusing.

[Arcuarius]

Turn right for "all primary routes" (apart from the one for which you have to turn left).

The road that you're being pointed down isn't primary, though...

[Rob590]

Attack of the Primary B roads here and here on the A68 in Tow Law.

[Chris5156]

Attack of the Primary B roads here and here on the A68 in Tow Law.

Ugh, and a sign with left and right arrows placed at the junction instead of ahead of it