Botched Roadsigns

[the cheesecake man]

Why no road numbers on this sign?

(The numbers are shown on the flag signs at the junction.)

It's the same (in reverse) here - and this on a primary route!

https://goo.gl/maps/2xxtgdBTjG2b9KSQA

And here's another one. Now you see the road numbers, now you don't.

[Jonathan24]

I came across this the other day, is it a prescribed variation? Seems to imply that you need to give way at the top of the (small) hill, even though there is no junction.

[c2R]

I came across this the other day, is it a prescribed variation? Seems to imply that you need to give way at the top of the (small) hill, even though there is no junction.

I think that it might be trying to warn of other hazard, that there is limited visibility beyond the crest of the hill.

[Chris5156]

I came across this the other day, is it a prescribed variation? Seems to imply that you need to give way at the top of the (small) hill, even though there is no junction.

There's a chance it's just a very obscure advert for toothpaste...

[Owain]

I came across this the other day, is it a prescribed variation? Seems to imply that you need to give way at the top of the (small) hill, even though there is no junction.

I think that it might be trying to warn of other hazard, that there is limited visibility beyond the crest of the hill.

Yes, it's a warning sign alerting you to the blind crest, rather than a "give way" sign (if you were being told to give way, "GIVE WAY" would be written inside the triangle).

In a car you'd be sitting a lot lower than the camera on the GSV vehicle, so the road ahead would be far more blind than it looks on GSV.

[FleetlinePhil]

I came across this the other day, is it a prescribed variation? Seems to imply that you need to give way at the top of the (small) hill, even though there is no junction.

I think that it might be trying to warn of other hazard, that there is limited visibility beyond the crest of the hill.

Yes, it's a warning sign alerting you to the blind crest, rather than a "give way" sign (if you were being told to give way, "GIVE WAY" would be written inside the triangle).

In a car you'd be sitting a lot lower than the camera on the GSV vehicle, so the road ahead would be far more blind than it looks on GSV.

Indeed, but should the triangle not be the other way up, something like this on the A68?

[jervi]

I think that it might be trying to warn of other hazard, that there is limited visibility beyond the crest of the hill.

Yes, it's a warning sign alerting you to the blind crest, rather than a "give way" sign (if you were being told to give way, "GIVE WAY" would be written inside the triangle).

In a car you'd be sitting a lot lower than the camera on the GSV vehicle, so the road ahead would be far more blind than it looks on GSV.

Indeed, but should the triangle not be the other way up, something like this on the A68?

That blind summit looks very much like a hidden dip.

[jervi]

Some looking around GSV in Brighton.
So no vehicles or no motor vehicles?
Interesting temporary sign no doubt it will remain after the road works are done (been ongoing for many years now). What the sign is trying to say, is take the first right to go westbound, because only left turns are allowed onto the A259
No right turn? pretty sure you mean "ahead only"

[Big L]

Some looking around GSV in Brighton...
No right turn? pretty sure you mean "ahead only"

Would 'Ahead Only' prevent you parking in the spaces on the left or going through the big roller shutter door a bit further up on the left?

[Nathan_A_RF]

Came across this playing Geoguessr. Wrong, but is the one on the other side wronger?

[Big L]

...which reminds me of this.

[multiraider2]

Haven't been actively looking at this thread recently so apologies if duplicated.

Another failure to understand the meaning of this sign Stanhope Gate, Mayfair.

Haven't noticed before but did last month. The end of the Blandford bypass and incorrect brackets

[the cheesecake man]

For more bracket-related pedantry, notice how N and S are in brackets for the A61 but aren't for the M1.

[multiraider2]

Barking up the wrong tree.

[JamesA44]

Another failure to understand the meaning of this sign Stanhope Gate, Mayfair.

There's a point in the roadworks cones at Selly Oak in Birmingham where that sign should definitely be used, but of course they've just put up two separate "Keep left" and "Keep right" signs

[Big L]

Another failure to understand the meaning of this sign Stanhope Gate, Mayfair.

There's a point in the roadworks cones at Selly Oak in Birmingham where that sign should definitely be used, but of course they've just put up two separate "Keep left" and "Keep right" signs

So whichever side you go you have broken the law.

I'm sure I've seen similar at motorway exits where there are roadworks.

[Conekicker]

Another failure to understand the meaning of this sign Stanhope Gate, Mayfair.

There's a point in the roadworks cones at Selly Oak in Birmingham where that sign should definitely be used, but of course they've just put up two separate "Keep left" and "Keep right" signs

So whichever side you go you have broken the law.

I'm sure I've seen similar at motorway exits where there are roadworks.

It's pretty much standard practise. There are two other ways to sign a coned nosing:

1) Don't put up any signs at all. This runs the risk of the nosing not being sufficiently visible to traffic, particularly at night and the cones then getting hit.
2) Install a black on yellow sign, what used to be Diagram 7241 or 7242 in TSRGD. Except this would require the specific route number to be applied to the sign face. No one is going to do that in reality as it involves some effort in the depot.

It would be helpful if we could follow US practise and simply show "Exit" under the arrow on such a sign, as this would give a "one size fits all" solution. I'm not sure if TSRGD would permit such a legend, perhaps Bomag could comment?

[Nathan_A_RF]

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[NottsLad]

I have always liked these two signs on the A46 near Leicester, one or both of which must be wrong:

https://www.google.com/maps/@52.6950768 ... 312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@52.701183, ... 312!8i6656

The signs are a mile apart heading in the same direction, note how the distances change! It could be that the second was installed after the dualling of the A46 but this would not have changed the distance to Nottingham and I don't think it would have changed the distances to Newark and Lincoln by as much as it seems.

[jervi]

I have always liked these two signs on the A46 near Leicester, one or both of which must be wrong:

https://www.google.com/maps/@52.6950768 ... 312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@52.701183, ... 312!8i6656

The signs are a mile apart heading in the same direction, note how the distances change! It could be that the second was installed after the dualling of the A46 but this would not have changed the distance to Nottingham and I don't think it would have changed the distances to Newark and Lincoln by as much as it seems.

Maybe the newer sign is measuring the distance to the outerpoint of the town/city, while the older one is using the distance to the centre?