1. The font doesn't look quite right to me. Is it correct?
2. The sign seems a bit low. Is this normal or sensible?
3. Why does it need to say "(main road)"? What does this mean? Isn't the main road the A46?
1. - it looks wrong to me too.
2. - I agree it looks a bit low.
3. - I think it says "main road" to get you off the service road that you are on. And from there, heading outwards in the direction you are facing is the best option to get to the modern A46. You are on the old road before the by-pass, in former times numbered A422.
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Not necessarily the signs themselves bodged, but the placement of the blue bordered signs at the same junction were altered quite significantly in recent remodelling, with new illumination provided too. 2008 vs. 2018.
traffic-light-man wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 18:15
Apparently there for several years already, and despite going past fairly regularly, the following example managed to surprised me the other day.
Not necessarily the signs themselves bodged, but the placement of the blue bordered signs at the same junction were altered quite significantly in recent remodelling, with new illumination provided too. 2008 vs. 2018.
All of those...
...just...
...utterly...
...awful.
Patience is not a virtue - it's a concept invented by the dozy beggars who are unable to think quickly enough.
traffic-light-man wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 18:15
Apparently there for several years already, and despite going past fairly regularly, the following example managed to surprised me the other day.
Not necessarily the signs themselves bodged, but the placement of the blue bordered signs at the same junction were altered quite significantly in recent remodelling, with new illumination provided too. 2008 vs. 2018.
I've been along there last year and noticed the ancient blue bordered signs. Can't believe they've even relocated one of them without replacement as it looks rather decrepit.
The original was correct at the time it was installed.
I did believe that was the case - I've possibly used misleading words saying 'this example'. I was meaning 'this example (of a sign)' rather than an example of a botched one.
That area in general is/was a brilliant little enclave of retro signs, this one being one of my favourites.
The sign shows main route as a right turn, but road markings as a Give Way. The Give Way makes sense from a safety POV, surely the sign is wrong and should show an equal legged Tee.
Are we agreed that this shouldn't be white on blue, and shouldn't have the motorway chopsticks, because the motorway doesn't start right here (you can still 'escape', by turning right for city centre at the lights around the corner).
ellandback wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 18:15
Are we agreed that this shouldn't be white on blue, and shouldn't have the motorway chopsticks, because the motorway doesn't start right here (you can still 'escape', by turning right for city centre at the lights around the corner).
The surface-level sign, meanwhile, should have the diagonal arrow outside the blue panel, not within it; the same is true for the next sign along the sliproad; the blue flag sign when you finally reach the motorway has the wrong alphabet for road numbers (but don’t they all in Leeds), fails to use brackets in A64(M) and A58(M), and has no chopsticks symbol.
The flag sign has been replaced with one that does appear to address your various observations, though Streetview doesn't show the latest version from close up. There you go - how much better is that?
Chris5156 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 21:23
fails to use brackets in A64(M) and A58(M)
Yeah well, we could have a whole separate thread for that!
ellandback wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 18:15
Are we agreed that this shouldn't be white on blue, and shouldn't have the motorway chopsticks, because the motorway doesn't start right here (you can still 'escape', by turning right for city centre at the lights around the corner).
It's a poor like for like of the original gantry sign that instead had a downward 45 degree arrow. And missing brackets around the (M).
Leeds was one of the few places where blue bordered gantry signs existed too.
Bryn Terminally cynical, unimpressed, and nearly Middle Age already. She said life was like a motorway; dull, grey, and long.
ellandback wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 18:15
Are we agreed that this shouldn't be white on blue, and shouldn't have the motorway chopsticks, because the motorway doesn't start right here (you can still 'escape', by turning right for city centre at the lights around the corner).
The surface-level sign, meanwhile, should have the diagonal arrow outside the blue panel, not within it; the same is true for the next sign along the sliproad; the blue flag sign when you finally reach the motorway has the wrong alphabet for road numbers (but don’t they all in Leeds), fails to use brackets in A64(M) and A58(M), and has no chopsticks symbol.
Apart from that it’s an absolute winner!
The blue flag sign when you get to the start of motorway has been replaced if you angle GSV to get 2019 imagery. It's correct!
The ancient start of motorway sign is still there, still proudly saying A 58 M. This originally will have been a 1964 style NO sign, so can't be older than 1975.
Bryn Terminally cynical, unimpressed, and nearly Middle Age already. She said life was like a motorway; dull, grey, and long.
ellandback wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 08:40
The flag sign has been replaced with one that does appear to address your various observations, though Streetview doesn't show the latest version from close up. There you go - how much better is that?
Bryn666 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 13:48The blue flag sign when you get to the start of motorway has been replaced if you angle GSV to get 2019 imagery. It's correct!
A correct and compliant direction sign? Newly installed? In Leeds? Bloody hell. It must be lost!
