Botched Roadsigns

[TS]

This https://goo.gl/maps/hqaj4JtH6nqZVw2cA crossroads warning sign has been replaced by a shiny modern one, but it is a bit of a shambles! It looks like this:

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At first glance, it appeared to be a sign that had just fallen sideways but of course it wouldn't be upright any other way round - so it has been put up as intended! Plus, it is the horizontal road which is the priority.

[Big L]

Must go left, must go straight.

[Al__S]

I've spent the week down in an area with a very high concentration of the "tank" warning sign, which is a personal favourite.

However this is a bit of a mess, to be honest, even if I understand fully the intent.. The real shocker is of course to be found on the opposite side

However, those responsible for this mess do have, as noted, tanks.

[PhilC]

This https://goo.gl/maps/hqaj4JtH6nqZVw2cA crossroads warning sign has been replaced by a shiny modern one, but it is a bit of a shambles! It looks like this:

At first glance, it appeared to be a sign that had just fallen sideways but of course it wouldn't be upright any other way round - so it has been put up as intended! Plus, it is the horizontal road which is the priority.

I wouldn't even class it as a crossroads, more a pair of T junctions. I don't know how far apart the side roads need to be for the junction to cease being a crossroads.

[JohnnyMo]

How wrong are these pair of signs ?
( over 2 posts as I am having a problem posting 2 attachments within a single post )

[JohnnyMo]

[jervi]

You could easily fill 16 pages of botched signs on the A272, mainly direction signs varying between primary and non-primary status. I drove nearly the entire length of the road last week and I think West Sussex County council need a few more emails passed their way...

Funny you said that. I actually did write up a report of all the road sign issues between the East/West Sussex boundary and the A24. I was many many many pages long (something like over 300 issues found)
Didn't send it in the end thou, felt like it would use up their entire annual budget in one go.

[Nathan_A_RF]

Even if they had to replace a sign if it was pointed out it was correct, chances are a white one would still pop up on that primary route every once in a while...

[ccsuit]

Hi there, this is my first post here as a long-time lurker!

I saw this sign the other day: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.74000 ... 6656?hl=en

There are a few things wrong with the sign, from what I can see. Firstly, the junction is a mini roundabout and not a t-junction like the sign suggests, and Abbots Langley is spelled wrong. But it's also a blue bordered sign! How exciting!

[TS]

This https://goo.gl/maps/rDhJ3knV7AG1hdvg9 is the wrong sign!

If you travel down the hill you will find that this is the side-road to the left, depicted on the sign by the thinner line!

[the cheesecake man]

The A45 is primary if you're going a long way. But if you're only using it for one junction it isn't. How does that work?

Also the roundabout has five exits but the one into the services isn't shown at all.

[Conekicker]

Warning.jpg

The heights quoted on warning (and regulatory) signs are determined in accordance with sections 7.4 and 7.5 of TSM4:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... pter-4.pdf

Allow me to express my surprise when I say that neither of those signs are correct.

The yardage plate is also wrong, to comply with TSRGD and considering it's less than half a mile, it should be to the nearest 10 yards, (S13-P3-I6).

[Johnathan404]

This https://goo.gl/maps/rDhJ3knV7AG1hdvg9 is the wrong sign!

If you travel down the hill you will find that this is the side-road to the left, depicted on the sign by the thinner line!

Obvious error aside, I'm not sure why that sign had to be used. It is (wrongly) associated with fast-flowing GSJs.

Why not use a normal 'give way ahead' sign?

[Conekicker]

This https://goo.gl/maps/rDhJ3knV7AG1hdvg9 is the wrong sign!

If you travel down the hill you will find that this is the side-road to the left, depicted on the sign by the thinner line!

Obvious error aside, I'm not sure why that sign had to be used. It is (wrongly) associated with fast-flowing GSJs.

Why not use a normal 'give way ahead' sign?

Because that would be too easy? It would also show a modicum of knowledge. Which is clearly lacking on the part of whoever decided that sign was a good idea at that location.

[JohnnyMo]

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Allow me to express my surprise when I say that neither of those signs are correct.

No s*** Sherlock

The yardage plate is also wrong, to comply with TSRGD and considering it's less than half a mile, it should be to the nearest 10 yards, (S13-P3-I6).

I hadn't picked that one up, but there again I write software not put up road signs. It could have been in metres or maybe feet given the quality of the signage

[c2R]

513 certainly doesn't mention "Slow" being a permitted plate in tsrgd...

https://www.google.com/maps/@51.9665645 ... 312!8i6656

[the cheesecake man]

No pedestrians beyond this point. Thanks for informing me but legally how can I can be confident of that observation?

[Bfivethousand]

The A45 is primary if you're going a long way. But if you're only using it for one junction it isn't. How does that work?

Also the roundabout has five exits but the one into the services isn't shown at all.

And I'm calling a botch on one of my pet hates - pointless abbreviation. There's plenty of space to accommodate "Higham Ferrers"

How wrong are these pair of signs ?
( over 2 posts as I am having a problem posting 2 attachments within a single post )

Is the regulatory sign placed on an arch bridge there? That'll be yet another botch if that's the case.

[c2R]

No pedestrians beyond this point. Thanks for informing me but legally how can I can be confident of that observation?

If only there was a sign for that... I saw today a random temporary sign that simply had an ! and the plate underneath read "Pedestrian"

[the cheesecake man]

No pedestrians beyond this point. Thanks for informing me but legally how can I can be confident of that observation?

If only there was a sign for that... I saw today a random temporary sign that simply had an ! and the plate underneath read "Pedestrian"

Person walking on a white background in a red circle?