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For some reason, all of the original signs for the Westwood Cross car park are on a black background. Another and another. A few have been replaced due to layout changes and they have the standard white background.

Also, most of the signs on this road have "A256" in yellow in green, despite the fact it isn't a primary route at this point, whilst the newer ones have the same but with brackets.
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L.J.D wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 21:14 Not sure if these small green signs are supposed to be down by the floor at the bottom of the signal poles but they look botchy and hideous. They are all like it so I can only assume they are supposed to be like that :?:
Perhaps the designer or council took inspiration from their American counterparts?
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https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.21769 ... 312!8i6656
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This sign https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.42811 ... 312!8i6656 at the start of the Winwick link road has recently been replaced with just 'Leigh' (A572)
Next, this one just up the road by M6 jct 22 https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.44059 ... 312!8i6656 has also been changed to just 'Lowton' A579 on a correct white sign. So no mention of 'Leigh' after the Winwick link road. Oh wait hang on. its mentioned here just before at the northbound entry slip https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.44004 ... 312!8i6656
Also not sure why remove the motoway and it's destinations from the Winwick link road sign as i would say 75% of traffic is heading for the M6.
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Rambo wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 19:57 Why the brackets ? https://www.google.com/maps/@53.4708435 ... 312!8i6656
The flag sign opposite is no better. Birmingham and Warrington pointlessly shortened to 'B'ham' and 'Wg'ton' and a green sign below for the non-primary A49.
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SouthWest Philip wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 23:01
Rambo wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 19:57 Why the brackets ? https://www.google.com/maps/@53.4708435 ... 312!8i6656
The flag sign opposite is no better. Birmingham and Warrington pointlessly shortened to 'B'ham' and 'Wg'ton' and a green sign below for the non-primary A49.
Yes that's even worse isn't it. Birmingham doesn't even need abbreviating. Newton & Haydock park on the same flag sign but are in opposite directions too.
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Shouldn't this be an arrow and not a chevron?
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While this photo is from about 40 years ago (the sign specifications may have been less strict then), I still feel that this A419 sign looks wrong as it has a northeastern arrow rather than the fat "right turn" chevron arrow that is almost universal for these kinds of arrow signs today:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/swindonlo ... 050557262/

The A419 followed mostly the same bypass route around the edge of Swindon then to what it does today. I suspect that it may have been acceptable by the standards of the 1960s or 1970s when it was installed, but it looks out of place for today. The typeface is correct, though.

The clearway end sign in the top left of the photo is botched looking, and a number of these old botched clearway signs still survive in parts of Swindon today, though some have been updated/corrected in the past couple of years.

I also very much doubt that the construction company, whose sign is visible in the background, still has the same name as in the photo if they still exist.


Also, how about this sign in Swindon during the 1980s, which has "MOTORWAY M4" written in block capitals:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/swindonlo ... 050557262/
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L.J.D wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 21:48 Shouldn't this be an arrow and not a chevron?
Yup, if it was 10 metres further down the road it would be okay. Maybe it was planned to be a little further down the road, however before they installed it they realised the bush was in the way so compromised and put it a little further up the road.
The stack sign on the right is strange though, but I don't think it is against the standards.
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https://www.google.com/maps/@53.3461256 ... 312!8i6656
The dodgy M56 patch has been swapped. It used to be at the top directing traffic via the Weston Point expressway but has since been changed to the other direction via Daresbury for some reason.
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A few 'iffy' ones that i've spotted recently. copied from GSV.

Poor abbreviations
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The text looks too big for this sign
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More white patches on a flag sign.
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Seen in Bristol tonight - black lettering, yellow sign.

ROAD IS TWO WAY
UNTIL ONE WAY SECTION

...Okay? :confused:
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DB617 wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 00:31 Seen in Bristol tonight - black lettering, yellow sign.

ROAD IS TWO WAY
UNTIL ONE WAY SECTION

...Okay? :confused:
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OliverH wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 13:54 wrong colour for the green patch: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.77677 ... authuser=0
Looks like its using the Emergency Pollution Control Valve colour. also that parked car on the otherside of the road... If only there were markings on the ground...
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jervi wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 15:05
OliverH wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 13:54 wrong colour for the green patch: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.77677 ... authuser=0
Looks like its using the Emergency Pollution Control Valve colour. also that parked car on the otherside of the road... If only there were markings on the ground...
Maybe they didn't fancy losing a wing mirror?

No excuses though for pavement-parking.

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jonnyf90 wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 15:49
jervi wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 15:05
OliverH wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 13:54 wrong colour for the green patch: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.77677 ... authuser=0
Looks like its using the Emergency Pollution Control Valve colour. also that parked car on the otherside of the road... If only there were markings on the ground...
Maybe they didn't fancy losing a wing mirror?

No excuses though for pavement-parking.

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Wakefield (A650,M62)

In addition to any technical failures such as not having M62 on a blue patch this is misleading. It implies you would use the A650 then the M62 to get to Wakefield, when the A650 will take you all the way there. M62 should be a separate item. M1 also would be useful but that's understandable as including it might encourage M1 South traffic to take the A650 through East Ardsley rather than joining the M62.

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