Botched Roadsigns

[Chris Bertram]

"Poole 3049" - would that be the A3049 or the B3049? (Obviously it's an A as it's a primary route, but even so!)

https://goo.gl/maps/FuCdVJAF8coBdc126

That's a beauty - it also has a panel of a different colour within a flag sign, which is not permitted, and a blue-bordered local direction sign when the whole assembly looks like it was erected much more recently than 1994. The whole thing is a nasty bodge. Whoever quality checked that?

Please sir, I know that answer sir, is it nobody?

[Chris5156]

Please sir, I know that answer sir, is it nobody?

Go to the top of the class!

[ellandback]

Are we happy with "... Industrial estates" on that sign? I'm not sure what the rules are but would have thought that (where, as here, the phrase is preceded by the name of a place) either both words should be capitalised, or neither.

[A Challenge]

At the junction of the A40 and A412 in Denham (just north of M40 J1), there is a flag sign pointing right for the straight on route. Although this is meant for traffic turning right onto the A40 and there is another right turn flag in the central reservation, the angle of the poles means it looks like it is for you coming up the westbound A40. Quite why the flag sign is placed diagonally so you can see it going straight on, I don't know, but it could confuse a lost motorist.

[AutomaticBeloved]

Saw this last night approaching a trumpet junction, not seen anything like it in the UK at least.

https://www.google.com/maps/@50.9901244 ... 312!8i6656

[Alderpoint]

Saw this last night approaching a trumpet junction, not seen anything like it in the UK at least.

https://www.google.com/maps/@50.9901244 ... 312!8i6656

Reminds me of the M40 "Bunny Ears" sign as you approach the M42 - although going up there yesterday that now has been replaced since the junction was adjusted use tiger tails.

[Chris5156]

Saw this last night approaching a trumpet junction, not seen anything like it in the UK at least.

https://www.google.com/maps/@50.9901244 ... 312!8i6656

Ridiculously and laughably needless. You take a sliproad on the left to reach a destination on the right in so many places, what’s so different here? I can’t see any reason why it wouldn’t just be a normal fork sign.

If the problem is people not expecting the corners, then... we have actual warning signs for that.

[Owain]

I don't know if this is a botch or if it's a legacy of the road's former number, but the A2034 into Folkestone is signed as A20. Both SABRE Maps and Google Maps are showing the road as A2034.

[Chris Bertram]

I don't know if this is a botch or if it's a legacy of the road's former number, but the A2034 into Folkestone is signed as A20. Both SABRE Maps and Google Maps are showing the road as A2034.

And here's the motorway's exit fork sign.

[Robert Kilcoyne]

The (M20) is in the wrong font here, and there is no mention of the straight ahead route through the tunnel still being the A20.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.10956 ... 312!8i6656

[Conekicker]

On both signs the triangle doesn't look to be big enough to me, it should be 20 s/w high (with an extra 0.5 s/w white border, which is missing from both signs), so 21 s/w total symbol height.

[jervi]

The (M20) is in the wrong font here, and there is no mention of the straight ahead route through the tunnel still being the A20.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.10956 ... 312!8i6656

Something is off with the sign, it's probably the size or the font, as you said. But don't see why I would need to have A20 on the sign, just having (M20) I'd say is better than A20 as prohibited traffic is definitely going to leave the road as they may think there is a motorway ahead, and not just a tunnel. But that being said, why didn't the M20 make it too this junction, it would be easier to have Motorway Regs rather than have Prohibited traffic orders between two junction, as well as motorway regs on the next section of road.

[Alderpoint]

Reminds me of the M40 "Bunny Ears" sign as you approach the M42 - although going up there yesterday that now has been replaced since the junction was adjusted use tiger tails.

I was mistaken. Bunny is still there - went past today, it's just further back than I remember it.

[Bfivethousand]

"Poole 3049" - would that be the A3049 or the B3049? (Obviously it's an A as it's a primary route, but even so!)

https://goo.gl/maps/FuCdVJAF8coBdc126

That's a beauty - it also has a panel of a different colour within a flag sign, which is not permitted, and a blue-bordered local direction sign when the whole assembly looks like it was erected much more recently than 1994. The whole thing is a nasty bodge. Whoever quality checked that?

Some panels are permitted within flag signs - tourist destinations included.

Still a bit of a bodgefest...

[Andy33gmail]

End of A66?

https://www.google.com/maps/@54.4427398 ... 312!8i6656

[Conekicker]

End of A66?

https://www.google.com/maps/@54.4427398 ... 312!8i6656

Ah yes, the recent improvement at Scotch Corner. Some of the designers proposals were indeed "a little bit different". It seems some recommendations passed on to them were ignored. How very unexpected.

[Arcuarius]

... it also has a panel of a different colour within a flag sign, which is not permitted ...

On a flag sign, panels of a status higher than that of the main sign aren't permitted. You couldn't have a motorway panel on a primary route sign, for example, as the sign itself takes the colour of the highest status road available at that junction.

Tourist destinations come below non-primary routes but above cycle routes in that hierarchy, so they're perfectly fine, so long as it's the entire block included within that panel, and not just a route number.

Of course, it may have changed (I've been stuck in structural maintenance for the past three years) but I believe Guildford Rules haven't been updated as of yet.

[Bryn666]

I try and avoid tourist panels are part of a larger sign as if the panel needs changing you get a coverplate disaster scenario.

[nowster]

Another botched roundabout sign.

[ForestChav]

Another botched roundabout sign.

Don't mind if I do follow that...