Botched Roadsigns

[Dougman]

When you go around the corner, the bridge loses 3".
https://goo.gl/maps/xYu5QTCotv7fpBuw6
Then when it gets to the low bridge, it gets the 3" back again.
https://goo.gl/maps/awst4oFRhcw5oHz9A

I've scrolled along the road and I think the loss of the 3" is the least of the problems with the signage!

[doebag]

Steeple Bumpstead. On the B1057 is surely not right

https://goo.gl/maps/TaD4Xfx4A9LD1aky7

The B1057 route is a right turn at the junction, so the deviation chevrons could be right except for the Give Way to the minor road from the left.
However go back where the camera car has come from and there is a warning sign showing the road goes to the right with a minor road joining from the left.
It confused me when I went through this morning, particularly as the painted road markings are in a bad condition.

[JohnnyMo]

Does a imply a ?

If not what is the speed limit here ? Also are these too vertical ?

Yes, unless there's another speed limit sign accompanying it, a start of motorway restrictions sign begins a 70 limit. The NSL signs in your second link are definitely the wrong angle, and also completely unnecessary.

A new set of standard have appeared which make the old ones look even worse and more pointless.

[ellandback]

Maybe, but it can't be 300 yards from the junction and also 300 yards from the signs further back on Elland Bridge. I haven't got my measuring tape out but the signs are a not insignificant number of yards apart from each other.

That's not what the sign means though, the sign indicates that the bridge is 300yds from the junction, not from the actual sign.

OK, in that case I stand corrected.

[swissferry]

https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5772363 ... 384!8i8192
Upside down!

More upside down roundabout signs.

They are on private property in a leisure park. I reckon they are trying to compete with Moto as they also have the following assortment:

• Dual carriageway ahead signs when you are already on the dual carriageway
• 15 and 25 mph speed limits
• Ahead only when you can turn right
• Turn right ahead with plate for "service vehicle route" where you can go straight on
• Give ways where the road markings suggest otherwise
  Worded pedestrian crossings with and without marked crossings
• Posts which I don't think ever had signs but probably should have

[tom66]

It's gone now, but "skidding hazard" for 10 yards? Really? (Go back to 2008 if it's not there.)

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.65601 ... 312!8i6656

[SteelCamel]

It's gone now, but "skidding hazard" for 10 yards? Really? (Go back to 2008 if it's not there.)

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.65601 ... 312!8i6656

A Streetview stitching error - it actually says "60 yards". Which, given the the traffic light sign says "50 yards" presumably means "from here to the traffic lights". Though I can't see any reason why the last 60 yards of slip road should be any worse than the rest of it. If the intention is to warn drivers to brake early for the lights then it really should be further back!

[the cheesecake man]

So are the few yards of A57 between the M60 and M67 primary or non-primary?

[OliverH]

So are the few yards of A57 between the M60 and M67 primary or non-primary?

Looks like they haven't replaced the other sign as the primary sign replaced a non-primary one.

[MotorwayGuy]

So are the few yards of A57 between the M60 and M67 primary or non-primary?

Looks like they haven't replaced the other sign as the primary sign replaced a non-primary one.

Another annoying thing is the use of "M'cr" when there is clearly enough room to fit "Manchester" on both that and the gantry. I assume they've done it to keep it consistent with the Airport signage.

[Big L]

How does the driver of a big lorry deal with this? The implication is that they take the next exit, but the restriction starts at the signs, no?

[Rambo]

Another primary/non primary botch. The road to the left - A556 is primary so should be green.

[SouthWest Philip]

Another primary/non primary botch. The road to the left - A556 is primary so should be green.

And if that's an exit from a roundabout, the signs pointing right shouldn't be there at all.

[Rambo]

Another primary/non primary botch. The road to the left - A556 is primary so should be green.

And if that's an exit from a roundabout, the signs pointing right shouldn't be there at all.

It's a kind of roundabout/gyratory. I see lots of right hand flag signs at roundabout round here in the north west. Some i understand the need but others are just pointless.

[Rambo]

Also on the A556 at Tabley interchange (M6 Jct 19) is this new ish sign which certainly loss odd.

[MotorwayGuy]

A post in another thread about this pass either side bollard made me aware of what a mess has been made of the general signage in this area.

The dedicated busway here is now only being used one-way, so the no u-turn roundel has been replaced with an "except buses" one, but the green left arrow has been retained. Opposite these are missing an "only" plate.

At the next junction, These signals have blue roundels with no splitter island which isn't permitted. The same with the side approach.

This bus gate lacks signage, in fact the entire bus lane before it has none either. There's also these bizarre split box junction markings everywhere.

There are right turn arrow markings for this roundabout that was built sometime after 2014, where they should not be used.

You obviously aren't supposed to turn right here, but there are no signs prohibiting it. This markings here at this junction suggest there is also no right turns, but no signs to prohibit it.

Turn left arrow marking with no signs.

[the cheesecake man]

How does the driver of a big lorry deal with this? The implication is that they take the next exit, but the restriction starts at the signs, no?

Would a lorry over 44 tonnes be there without an escort or pre-approved route?

[tom66]

You obviously aren't supposed to turn right here, but there are no signs prohibiting it. This markings here at this junction suggest there is also no right turns, but no signs to prohibit it.

What's with the yellow box in that junction -- it's split into two smaller boxes? As if they wanted to paint a white line through it? I've not seen that before.

[jnty]

You obviously aren't supposed to turn right here, but there are no signs prohibiting it. This markings here at this junction suggest there is also no right turns, but no signs to prohibit it.

What's with the yellow box in that junction -- it's split into two smaller boxes? As if they wanted to paint a white line through it? I've not seen that before.

You get this a bit in Edinburgh around the tram route. It seems to align with where the lanes would be.

https://goo.gl/maps/fanLvF8hpULzjmZGA
https://goo.gl/maps/mTv1kJ1taQjJVyTVA
https://goo.gl/maps/JRc2a8Ezp4ZNrAW69
https://goo.gl/maps/f18e6PU3d2LdTYDVA

[Bryn666]

So are the few yards of A57 between the M60 and M67 primary or non-primary?

Looks like they haven't replaced the other sign as the primary sign replaced a non-primary one.

Another annoying thing is the use of "M'cr" when there is clearly enough room to fit "Manchester" on both that and the gantry. I assume they've done it to keep it consistent with the Airport signage.

Given the correct prescribed legend today is Manchester (C), and some signs do say this, I think they just blindly copied the old sign. The gantry they installed there is an absolute abomination that suggests junior level staff, or a complete clot who should be sent to direct traffic around an empty car park as punishment forever, did it.