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https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.89823 ... 384!8i8192
Upside down giveway ahead sign.
Also the end of 40 zone start of 40 limit sign in the foreground is odd. Don't think its incorrect, but it is certainly strange to see a sign like that
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jervi wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 20:42 https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.89823 ... 384!8i8192
Upside down giveway ahead sign.
Also the end of 40 zone start of 40 limit sign in the foreground is odd. Don't think its incorrect, but it is certainly strange to see a sign like that
That's because of the specially authorised New Forest 40 Zone.
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The real problem is the designer that thought a high speed segregated left turn lane slamming into a give way line like that was a good idea in the first place. Those signs scream post-RSA3 panic.

See also this absolute blx on the A57, delivered by National England Agency for Highways Agency of Transport when they tinkered with Denton Island: https://goo.gl/maps/QM4Xvrqe7aVsH2YS9

Oh look, someone crashed into the end of it: https://goo.gl/maps/6Sd9AxTDhsWsY9An9

Do any of these "designers" ever actually use public highways or are they just unthinking borg organisms in a life support tube somewhere? They're certainly on a different planet to me, that's for sure.
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Bryn666 wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 13:21 See also this absolute blx on the A57, delivered by National England Agency for Highways Agency of Transport when they tinkered with Denton Island: https://goo.gl/maps/QM4Xvrqe7aVsH2YS9

Oh look, someone crashed into the end of it: https://goo.gl/maps/6Sd9AxTDhsWsY9An9

Do any of these "designers" ever actually use public highways or are they just unthinking borg organisms in a life support tube somewhere? They're certainly on a different planet to me, that's for sure.
What is that random signal with no stop line doing in the filter lane?
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Chris Bertram wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 14:23
Bryn666 wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 13:21 See also this absolute blx on the A57, delivered by National England Agency for Highways Agency of Transport when they tinkered with Denton Island: https://goo.gl/maps/QM4Xvrqe7aVsH2YS9

Oh look, someone crashed into the end of it: https://goo.gl/maps/6Sd9AxTDhsWsY9An9

Do any of these "designers" ever actually use public highways or are they just unthinking borg organisms in a life support tube somewhere? They're certainly on a different planet to me, that's for sure.
What is that random signal with no stop line doing in the filter lane?
That is the wrongly placed secondary head for the circulatory carriageway of the roundabout because the splitter island is something like 3mm too narrow to satisfy the requirements for a signal pole.

This shoehorn filter lane has caused more problems than the old roundabout ever did, a classic example of people who just don't understand roundabouts being let loose on them once again.
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Maybe a botched road marking rather than sign but what’s the speed limit here? The sign says 30…

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.91001 ... 384!8i8192

But the road markings have been repainted (it doesn’t matter but the sign is in the direction of the upside down marking):

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/New ... -1.9862159
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shouldn't the exemption plate be under the no HGV's over the max gross weight sign?
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Bryn666 wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 13:21
The real problem is the designer that thought a high speed segregated left turn lane slamming into a give way line like that was a good idea in the first place. Those signs scream post-RSA3 panic.

See also this absolute blx on the A57, delivered by National England Agency for Highways Agency of Transport when they tinkered with Denton Island: https://goo.gl/maps/QM4Xvrqe7aVsH2YS9

Oh look, someone crashed into the end of it: https://goo.gl/maps/6Sd9AxTDhsWsY9An9

Do any of these "designers" ever actually use public highways or are they just unthinking borg organisms in a life support tube somewhere? They're certainly on a different planet to me, that's for sure.
That has to be the worst thing I've seen in a long time, why is that build out even there? Not to mention the cycle lane than ends with a pole in the middle of it and the far side signal head being in the slip lane!
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Jonathan24 wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 23:14 Maybe a botched road marking rather than sign but what’s the speed limit here? The sign says 30…

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.91001 ... 384!8i8192

But the road markings have been repainted (it doesn’t matter but the sign is in the direction of the upside down marking):

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/New ... -1.9862159
The Zone Ends sign applies to the side road.
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Great Barr on the M6 has a number of 1970s gantry installations with backing boards that would have been large enough to accommodate somewhat-compliant signs back when they were new, but are now out-of-date. Evidently, coughing up some cash to replace or modify them has never been on the cards for the local authority so the signs on them today are compromised concoctions, this one's probably the messiest of the lot.

The place has some rather substandard ADS's as well.
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Patrick Harper wrote: Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:24The place has some rather substandard ADS's as well.
I won't hear a word against the Fred Astaire sign!
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A few to report from my trip to South Wales last week! Apologies if they have already been mentioned in the million pages of this thread. :-D

This sign lists "A4119" and "(A4119)" on the same panel. It should read "Penarth (A4160)".

Just off Junction 34 of the M4, we have two for the price of one! The top sign is missing its "A4119" (maybe it could steal the one from the sign above!) and the bottom sign - ugh. Just ugh.

The spacing on this gantry on the M4 is non-existent. It suggests you can take the A4051 for the towns of Cwmbran, Newport, Casnewydd and Caerleon.....

No Welsh on this one in Talbot Green.

Or here in Pencoed.

And finally this - why is "Llantrisant B4595" in a smaller font size than the rest of the sign?
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A contradictory pair here in Eastleigh, both of which are wrong, I think, but certainly one is!
https://goo.gl/maps/hffomSf5dEEdqM177

The 'Keep left' sign on the left-hand bollard must surely be wrong, as northbound traffic can pass either side of it.
But I think the 'Pass either side' sign is also technically wrong, because although you can pass either side, you don't reach the same destination from either lane because the right-hand lane is for right turners only.
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TS wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 19:26 A contradictory pair here in Eastleigh, both of which are wrong, I think, but certainly one is!
https://goo.gl/maps/hffomSf5dEEdqM177

The 'Keep left' sign on the left-hand bollard must surely be wrong, as northbound traffic can pass either side of it.
But I think the 'Pass either side' sign is also technically wrong, because although you can pass either side, you don't reach the same destination from either lane because the right-hand lane is for right turners only.
Not only that, but the lorry has its telephone number wrong! There has never been a code of "02382"!
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Gareth Thomas wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 19:34 Not only that, but the lorry has its telephone number wrong! There has never been a code of "02382"!
But everyone knows phone codes are 5 digits.

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But then they once sent me paperwork for a job around Birmingham with the phone number given as 0121n nnnnnn.
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This sign caught me out at Southampton Airport (Parkway) station car park.
https://goo.gl/maps/ugAbBqHUfZPGERwm8

To go to Eastleigh, you turn right in front of the sign. The arrow sign rather than the chevron wrongfooted me. If you pass the sign on the left hand side, you have to turn left onto Wide Lane. Fortunately there is a roundabout immediately coming up, to do a U-turn!
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I'll just read this sign and assume that I can go either side and reach the same destination. Well, it doesn't seem to be. If only this sign meant that you could go either side of the island instead of the same but then to get to the same destination. If you want more, then I can find an image that I have of one.
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I'll just read this sign and assume that I can go either side and reach the same destination. Well, it doesn't seem to be. If only this sign meant that you could go either side of the island instead of the same but then to get to the same destination. If you want more, then I can find an image that I have of one.
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OliverH wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 11:24 I'll just read this sign and assume that I can go either side and reach the same destination. Well, it doesn't seem to be. If only this sign meant that you could go either side of the island instead of the same but then to get to the same destination. If you want more, then I can find an image that I have of one.
yep here too: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.74329 ... 8192?hl=en
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