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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Conekicker » Tue Dec 01, 2020 21:53

jervi wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 20:35
Just a bit further around
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.49748 ... 312!8i6656
Never seen a tourist sign showing lanes like that before!
Perfectly lawful. Not the best design and being at a smaller 'x' height than the sign above it (presumably to get it to fit on the same posts) is wrong. Quite how a driver is supposed to take in all that information at a quite complex junction and get in the correct lane in a timely manner is another matter.
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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Patrick Harper » Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:10

jervi wrote:
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the cheesecake man wrote:
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Left lane for M1 North, A61 and a road with a top secret number. :confused:


A6195 used to be both lanes. When the layout was changed the patch supplied was too small so rather than get a bigger one or some paint the brackets have been left for decorative effect. : :thumbsdown:
Just a bit further around
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.49748 ... 312!8i6656
Never seen a tourist sign showing lanes like that before!
Just noticed there are no direction signs (flag-type or the ones with an 'inclined arrow') at the redesigned Birdwell Roundabout. That can't be right...
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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by traffic-light-man » Wed Dec 02, 2020 13:55

These have been erected in the last few weeks at every side road (or docks access) crossing the 'new' cycle route along Regent Road in Liverpool. I can't help but think it's the wrong sign, in the wrong place. I assume the intention is to warn turning traffic of the cycle lane, but they're not all that clear to traffic on the main road and they offer no warning at all to traffic approaching from the side roads.
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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by A303Chris » Wed Dec 02, 2020 14:04

Only noticed this today in traffic , but obviously Reading BC don't understand the use of brackets and where there actual roads go.

Prior to these being erected there were the original green primary signs which had a direction for each lane which had "Royal Berkshire Hospital" for lane 1, Newbury A4, Basingstoke (A33), Oxford (M4,A34) for lane 2 and "Town Centre, Caversham Henley (A4155)" for Lane 3. How they managed to go from that to this.
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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by jervi » Wed Dec 02, 2020 16:24

DB617 wrote:
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Amazing. Everything about this is wrong.

Gory.
It's not too bad. On the approach to a mini roundabout, only the regular roundabout warning sign can be used (never the mini one). The message below it doesn't seem necessary though, but IIRC isn't exclictly incorrect or forbidden.

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

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jervi wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 16:24
DB617 wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 16:02
Amazing. Everything about this is wrong.

Gory.
It's not too bad. On the approach to a mini roundabout, only the regular roundabout warning sign can be used (never the mini one). The message below it doesn't seem necessary though, but IIRC isn't exclictly incorrect or forbidden.
Ah okay, not totally wrong then. The inclusion of instructions on how to conduct oneself at a roundabout just seems like 'sign make it better' plus the ridiculous grey backboard is nasty.

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by traffic-light-man » Wed Dec 02, 2020 17:20

DB617 wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 17:08
The inclusion of instructions on how to conduct oneself at a roundabout just seems like 'sign make it better' plus the ridiculous grey backboard is nasty.
Perhaps a hold-over from a time when mini roundabouts were uncommon? These spring to mind as something similar.
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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Skipsy » Wed Dec 02, 2020 17:47

https://www.google.com/maps/@51.4123157 ... 384!8i8192
No right turn except for buses, taxis and cycles, however the blue sign showing permitted traffic does not have a cycle symbol. Small error no doubt, however imagine a bus trying to turn right into there

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Patrick Harper » Wed Dec 02, 2020 18:31

The new dumbbell on the Dinant Link Road just off the A10 near Hoddesdon has been criticised elsewhere, but this new ADS that GSV has just added highlights that HCC is seemingly unable to decide whether this stretch of road should be a spur of the A10 or A1170. The sign is white but A1170 is in brackets and A10 is in a green patch...not in brackets? When I was an apprentice there I was told that they were intending to 'downgrade' it but I reckon they'll leave the problem to fester, just as they'll leave the green flag-type sign in the foreground as is because 'it wasn't part of the project'.
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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Nathan_A_RF » Wed Dec 02, 2020 21:40

traffic-light-man wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 13:55
These have been erected in the last few weeks at every side road (or docks access) crossing the 'new' cycle route along Regent Road in Liverpool. I can't help but think it's the wrong sign, in the wrong place. I assume the intention is to warn turning traffic of the cycle lane, but they're not all that clear to traffic on the main road and they offer no warning at all to traffic approaching from the side roads.
Judging by that little note on the pole, were they referring to Diagram 955 back to back facing left and right, but by coincidence the arrows and bicycle picture look the same as that cycle lanes sign so they put that up instead?

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by traffic-light-man » Thu Dec 03, 2020 13:53

Nathan_A_RF wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 21:40
Judging by that little note on the pole, were they referring to Diagram 955 back to back facing left and right, but by coincidence the arrows and bicycle picture look the same as that cycle lanes sign so they put that up instead?
It's possible, but these 955 bollards were installed when the cycle lane was built, and I cannot help but think they're on the wrong corners, facing the wrong way - again replicated throughout the scheme.
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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by the cheesecake man » Thu Dec 03, 2020 14:10

It's a flag sign so turn right here right now? No?

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Chris5156 » Thu Dec 03, 2020 15:43

the cheesecake man wrote:
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It's a flag sign so turn right here right now? No?
Yuck. Flag signs where you can't turn are a pet hate of mine.

A brown sign shouldn't have a white panel either - if "Castleford Tigers" isn't a tourist or leisure destination then it should be on a separate sign. If it is (and yes, it is) it can just be white on brown with the rest of the text.

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Dougman » Fri Dec 04, 2020 09:06

Spotted this abomination yesterday.
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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by skiddaw05 » Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:44

Chris5156 wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 15:43
the cheesecake man wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 14:10
It's a flag sign so turn right here right now? No?
Yuck. Flag signs where you can't turn are a pet hate of mine.
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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Big L » Fri Dec 04, 2020 16:36

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Conekicker » Fri Dec 04, 2020 19:26

Patience is not a virtue - it's a concept invented by the dozy beggars who are unable to think quickly enough.

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by TS » Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:04

I don't know if it's been mentioned before, but there is a reference to the A102(M) on the M25 off-slip at Junction 3.
https://goo.gl/maps/AgoLgYiWaKeAiyVC7

It is also missing the brackets around the 'M', even if the road still existed!

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by traffic-light-man » Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:15

Hmm...
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