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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Conekicker » Mon Jan 04, 2021 13:06

Bryn666 wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:31
traffic-light-man wrote:
Thu Dec 31, 2020 17:01
TTM, I know, but :cry:
Everything there is wrong. That takes some skills.
The "Bloke who has lost his shovel whilst using a zebra crossing" sign is certainly very speshul. Ye gods this industry is totally screwed, third world countries can do it better.
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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Bryn666 » Mon Jan 04, 2021 13:31

Conekicker wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 13:06
Bryn666 wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:31
traffic-light-man wrote:
Thu Dec 31, 2020 17:01
TTM, I know, but :cry:
Everything there is wrong. That takes some skills.
The "Bloke who has lost his shovel whilst using a zebra crossing" sign is certainly very speshul. Ye gods this industry is totally screwed, third world countries can do it better.
When does the revolution start?
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Re: Botched Roadsigns

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Conekicker » Mon Jan 04, 2021 16:05

Bryn666 wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 13:31
Conekicker wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 13:06
Bryn666 wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:31


Everything there is wrong. That takes some skills.
The "Bloke who has lost his shovel whilst using a zebra crossing" sign is certainly very speshul. Ye gods this industry is totally screwed, third world countries can do it better.
When does the revolution start?
I couldn't care less. I'm retiring this summer.
Patience is not a virtue - it's a concept invented by the dozy beggars who are unable to think quickly enough.

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Al__S » Mon Jan 04, 2021 18:05

traffic-light-man wrote:
Thu Dec 31, 2020 17:01
TTM, I know, but :cry:
TTM do seem to be the best at truly abysmal/illegal signs

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Skipsy » Mon Jan 04, 2021 18:55

End of dual carriageway on a single carriageway
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.2877031 ... 384!8i8192

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by the cheesecake man » Mon Jan 04, 2021 23:04

Skipsy wrote:
Wed Dec 23, 2020 15:49
Humps for 40 yards, and humps for 25 yards in the same place, and for just one hump?
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.4496861 ... 384!8i8192
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.4498074 ... 384!8i8192
25 yards may be the shortest distance given for a "humps for _" sign, and there's not even multiple humps.
It looks like the second sign is closer to the hump than the first by about 15 yards so that bit might be right.

But of course there's only one hump so it shouldn't be humps at all. :coat:
Nathan_A_RF wrote:
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Colourblind sign designer?
Or new sign designer who's just moved from railways to roads?

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by scragend » Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:23

Seen on another forum - on the Menai Bridge apparently.
Except bicycles by bicycles.png
I am not a Welsh speaker but the English and Welsh seem to be saying the same thing. But what does it mean?

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by jervi » Fri Jan 08, 2021 14:56

scragend wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:23
Seen on another forum - on the Menai Bridge apparently.

Except bicycles by bicycles.png

I am not a Welsh speaker but the English and Welsh seem to be saying the same thing. But what does it mean?
That's been shared on here before. Although the signs have been twisted around/missing. The round sign is a "no overtaking sign" across the bridge due to narrow lane width / near impossible to pass a cyclist safety. The overtaking order has the exception of bicycles by bicycles, since it is perfectly suitable for two bicycles to be beside each other.
I haven't checked the legal standing on bicycles while subjected "no overtaking" orders, so the sign may be redundant anyway (if bicycles do not have to follow the order)

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by scragend » Fri Jan 08, 2021 18:19

jervi wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 14:56
scragend wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:23
Seen on another forum - on the Menai Bridge apparently.

Except bicycles by bicycles.png

I am not a Welsh speaker but the English and Welsh seem to be saying the same thing. But what does it mean?
That's been shared on here before. Although the signs have been twisted around/missing. The round sign is a "no overtaking sign" across the bridge due to narrow lane width / near impossible to pass a cyclist safety. The overtaking order has the exception of bicycles by bicycles, since it is perfectly suitable for two bicycles to be beside each other.
I haven't checked the legal standing on bicycles while subjected "no overtaking" orders, so the sign may be redundant anyway (if bicycles do not have to follow the order)
Ah I see. Makes a bit more sense now. Thanks!

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Truvelo » Sun Jan 10, 2021 13:36

How would you like your grade separations, Sir?
Big and complex.

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by nowster » Sun Jan 10, 2021 14:16

Truvelo wrote:
Sun Jan 10, 2021 13:36
Oh dear :|

https://goo.gl/maps/suWmB1zpurhLB7Qz8
That's... um... "special".

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by jervi » Sun Jan 10, 2021 14:37

Truvelo wrote:
Sun Jan 10, 2021 13:36
Oh dear :|

https://goo.gl/maps/suWmB1zpurhLB7Qz8
I drove along here on Wednesday for the first time and saw that sign as well as a load of other incorrect signs on the A429.
I would share these other signs but my internet is dog poop at the moment and GSV takes about a minute to load a sphere.

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Gareth Thomas » Sun Jan 10, 2021 18:08

This one on the A2 seems to suggest that Canterbury (a primary destination) is merely a local destination.
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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by the cheesecake man » Mon Jan 11, 2021 13:37

Truvelo wrote:
Sun Jan 10, 2021 13:36
Oh dear :|

https://goo.gl/maps/suWmB1zpurhLB7Qz8
:lol: Well I suppose it's efficient in combining an arrow and a dead end .... :thumbsdown:

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by nowster » Mon Jan 11, 2021 13:43

Gareth Thomas wrote:
Sun Jan 10, 2021 18:08
This one on the A2 seems to suggest that Canterbury (a primary destination) is merely a local destination.
How does it do that? Most people using the A2 there will be expecting to see London as a "follow this for everywhere else" destination.

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Stevie D » Mon Jan 11, 2021 14:02

nowster wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 13:43
Gareth Thomas wrote:
Sun Jan 10, 2021 18:08
This one on the A2 seems to suggest that Canterbury (a primary destination) is merely a local destination.
How does it do that? Most people using the A2 there will be expecting to see London as a "follow this for everywhere else" destination.
If Canterbury was intended to have the same primary status as London then you would have London and Canterbury arranged as a block one above the other, with A2 to the right of both of them, aligned vertical-middle with the block.

By putting "London A2" and then leaving a block gap before "Canterbury", they are saying that Canterbury is a non-primary destination.
Of course, the distinction between primary and non-primary destinations has been so badly eroded by the idiocy of including them on the same signs and without any real differentiation between them means that only the geekiest Sabristi will realise that that is what that sign is saying, so it is hardly a major error that will confuse or mislead drivers.

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Bfivethousand » Mon Jan 11, 2021 23:36

London (M2)
Canterbury A2

would surely be the most sensible format?
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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Brenley Corner » Tue Jan 12, 2021 08:51

Still in Kent.....this has appeared in the local press: LINK

It may or may not be true :wink:

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Octaviadriver » Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:29

Stevie D wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 14:02
nowster wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 13:43
Gareth Thomas wrote:
Sun Jan 10, 2021 18:08
This one on the A2 seems to suggest that Canterbury (a primary destination) is merely a local destination.
How does it do that? Most people using the A2 there will be expecting to see London as a "follow this for everywhere else" destination.
If Canterbury was intended to have the same primary status as London then you would have London and Canterbury arranged as a block one above the other, with A2 to the right of both of them, aligned vertical-middle with the block.
Just like the previous sign used prior to the central reservation crossover being closed.
https://goo.gl/maps/QVUPekhtzYek1Qkh7

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