Botched Traffic Signals
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Speaking of which, are Mellors still being manufactured? I know TSC were making them well into the last decade but I've personally not seen a new installation for years.
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TSC have now merged with Motus and I think as such, most if not all of the TSC lines will have been discontinued. Unless they're still manufacturing the TSC modular head, it was incredibly short lived really!
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Not merged; bought out. Considering most of Motus was formed out of ex-TSC guys forming USCO and then the tie up with Techmiracle to form Motus, the irony is obvious.
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We are currently in the middle of a big retrofitting programme in Leicester converting Halogen to LED (See http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Thous ... story.html) which is throwing up the odd botch here or there.
Most recent one I noticed today was on this junction https://goo.gl/maps/Uj2d5VCd2p82 The head in the link was been replaced but the lower left turn aspect has been fitted upside down so its displaying a right aspect, however the right turn is a banned movement.
Most recent one I noticed today was on this junction https://goo.gl/maps/Uj2d5VCd2p82 The head in the link was been replaced but the lower left turn aspect has been fitted upside down so its displaying a right aspect, however the right turn is a banned movement.
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Check this one out. Only just spotted it.
I'll have to go and see if it's been rectified yet, I don't travel that direction along there all to often.
I'll have to go and see if it's been rectified yet, I don't travel that direction along there all to often.
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"Definitely no U-Turns, do you hear me?!"traffic-light-man wrote:Check this one out. Only just spotted it.
I'll have to go and see if it's been rectified yet, I don't travel that direction along there all to often.
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Given the recent trend of having different signs applying to each lane - e.g. an ahead only arrow on the left pole and right only on the right pole - I think it's fair to say that the double sign means the restriction applies to lane 2 as well as 3. So it's very clear, if you want to do a u-turn, you must do so from lane 1dragonv480 wrote:"Definitely no U-Turns, do you hear me?!"traffic-light-man wrote:Check this one out. Only just spotted it.
I'll have to go and see if it's been rectified yet, I don't travel that direction along there all to often.
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MotorwayGuy wrote:Why not double up?
The lack of borders on those lights somehow make them seem dirty.
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Before I moved to London, I always thought the same about London traffic lights. Outside London it's almost completely unknown for lights to be installed without the white backing boards, but within London most don't have them.michael769 wrote:The lack of borders on those lights somehow make them seem dirty.MotorwayGuy wrote:Why not double up?
We've had threads before discussing this difference, but nobody's ever quite got to the bottom of why that is!
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Because junctions almost always have lights in London, you're always looking for them. And the skill level of drivers is much better. Plus the speed limits are never higher than 40mph, so they're never required
Elsewhere, they're more likely to be a surprise
Just a guess
Elsewhere, they're more likely to be a surprise
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Is it me or are backing boards becoming more common on London traffic lights?
(It's entirely possible I just drive on the wrong roads.)
(It's entirely possible I just drive on the wrong roads.)
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I'm not sure I think they are. I'd say that as sets of lights are renewed with new equipment, the overall ratio of lights with backing boards to lights without never changes - ie, the presence of backing boards in general never seems to change much. But the presence of backing boards at any given junction often changes when the equipment is renewed. And more than that, the presence of backing boards at any one set of lights doesn't seem related to anything in particular: lights with backing boards get replaced with new lights without and vice versa; there's successive sets of lights on the same road both with and without, etc.Johnathan404 wrote:Is it me or are backing boards becoming more common on London traffic lights?
(It's entirely possible I just drive on the wrong roads.)
It seems to be down to the whim of the installation team, or perhaps whether they've got any backing boards in the van! I can certainly never see any logic or consistency in their application.
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The lights on the roundabout at M42 J10 aren't quite right this week. Been causing delays back up the A5 towards Tamworth and the roundabout itself has been near gridlocked every morning when I've gone in to work.
For all its signage faults, it usually runs pretty smoothly.
For all its signage faults, it usually runs pretty smoothly.
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Why not indeed!MotorwayGuy wrote:Why not double up?
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Somewhat in contrast to the trend to fit multiple secondary lights these lights inexplicably only have a secondary for straight on, which is just about okay in the opposite direction but heading south the left signal changes before straight.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Mar ... bd4675cbe5
I now stop a bit behind the lead car in case they don't see the change so I can go around them, but they are very poorly sequenced lights.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Mar ... bd4675cbe5
I now stop a bit behind the lead car in case they don't see the change so I can go around them, but they are very poorly sequenced lights.
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They are primary and secondary signals - you can tell as they have different hoods.MotorwayGuy wrote:Why not double up?
They are waaaayy too close together though - I wonder if they were designed by someone with a book, GSV, and autocad, rather than someone who has been to the site and thought about it
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I know of a few sites like that. I guess in practise, it achieves the same as having two offside heads on separate poles.
There's this site in Liverpool, and this site in Warrington.
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Why on earth would you do this. It looks awful and doesn't seem to serve any useful purpose. At a push the one in Warrington could be argued to improve visibility to the side road traffic but I struggle to really see the need.
Incidentally I note the stoplines don't extend across the hatched areas which I believe they should do.
Incidentally I note the stoplines don't extend across the hatched areas which I believe they should do.