Unnecessarily Accurate Distances on Signs
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As there is only one way in and one way out, they're presumably hoping that people will remember!jervi wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 22:46 https://www.google.com/maps/@50.8372828 ... 312!8i6656
Shame there is no sign the other direction.
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It's also not true. 870 yards appears to be the distance to the far end of the village (where there's a matching "no footway for 870 yards" sign). But there's no footway outside the village for quite some way in either direction. And there's about 350 yards of the "no footway" section that does have a footway - it even has footways on both sides and a zebra crossing between them at one point!TS wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 20:55 Well we couldn't just put "½ mile" - that would be an exaggeration!
https://goo.gl/maps/MKbeY5cnZ6ixUAio7
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I spotted a '14 yds' for a school crossing patrol at Fair Oak, Eastleigh, today:
https://goo.gl/maps/rReDaLW2BW2FNsSB7
https://goo.gl/maps/rReDaLW2BW2FNsSB7
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22 yards in Bromley.
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Not only does the "dual carriageway ending" sign on the A9 at Dalraddy show distances to the nearest 20 yards, it also shows two different distances on either side of the road to reflect that the signs aren't exactly opposite each other.
(I notice that 440 yards is suspiciously close to 400m.)
(I notice that 440 yards is suspiciously close to 400m.)
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There are a lot of half miles on this old sign in Wadebridge, North Cornwall
https://www.google.com/maps/@50.5178564 ... 384!8i8192
https://www.google.com/maps/@50.5178564 ... 384!8i8192
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A couple in Cumbria tooNorfolktolancashire wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 13:42 There are a lot of half miles on this old sign in Wadebridge, North Cornwall
https://www.google.com/maps/@50.5178564 ... 384!8i8192
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Re: Unnecessarily Accurate Distances on Signs
i think that the rule is that 1/4, 1/2 and 3/4 of a mile are added to signs where the distance is less than 3 miles so this would not be seen as overly precise for the distances in the two signposts shown on these two photographs.solocle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 17:35A couple in Cumbria tooNorfolktolancashire wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 13:42 There are a lot of half miles on this old sign in Wadebridge, North Cornwall
https://www.google.com/maps/@50.5178564 ... 384!8i8192
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I would have put the yellow board behind the traffic light.
BTW, 11 yards looks suspiciously like 10 metres to me.
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If the UK ever changed to metric roads signs, what would the appropriate rounding factors be?Rillington wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 17:48i think that the rule is that 1/4, 1/2 and 3/4 of a mile are added to signs where the distance is less than 3 miles so this would not be seen as overly precise for the distances in the two signposts shown on these two photographs.solocle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 17:35A couple in Cumbria tooNorfolktolancashire wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 13:42 There are a lot of half miles on this old sign in Wadebridge, North Cornwall
https://www.google.com/maps/@50.5178564 ... 384!8i8192
AC45E090-3B60-427D-968B-B1105970C00C.jpeg8F2EA935-8BF7-407D-89E1-030FB049DE37.jpeg
I would suggest that up to 100 metres - 10 metre rounding; up to 200 metres - 20 metre rounding; up to 500 metres - 50 metre rounding; up to 1 km (or 1000 metres) - 100 metre rounding; up to 2 km (or 2000 metres) - 200 metre rounding; up to 5 km - 0.5 km rounding and about 5 km, one kilometres rounding.
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Current rules (Schedule 18, Part 3) are 10 yard rounding up to 880 yards, although we know that's actually rounded to metres, 1/4 miles up to 3, and then whole miles.Vierwielen wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 22:56 If the UK ever changed to metric roads signs, what would the appropriate rounding factors be?
I would suggest that up to 100 metres - 10 metre rounding; up to 200 metres - 20 metre rounding; up to 500 metres - 50 metre rounding; up to 1 km (or 1000 metres) - 100 metre rounding; up to 2 km (or 2000 metres) - 200 metre rounding; up to 5 km - 0.5 km rounding and about 5 km, one kilometres rounding.
If it were to change, I'd suggest 10m rounding up to 500m, then 50m rounding up to 1km, 500m rounding up to 5km (close to 3 miles) and then whole km.
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If it was me I'd do something which has been needed for a long time, and convert everything to metric.AndyB wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 19:15Current rules (Schedule 18, Part 3) are 10 yard rounding up to 880 yards, although we know that's actually rounded to metres, 1/4 miles up to 3, and then whole miles.Vierwielen wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 22:56 If the UK ever changed to metric roads signs, what would the appropriate rounding factors be?
I would suggest that up to 100 metres - 10 metre rounding; up to 200 metres - 20 metre rounding; up to 500 metres - 50 metre rounding; up to 1 km (or 1000 metres) - 100 metre rounding; up to 2 km (or 2000 metres) - 200 metre rounding; up to 5 km - 0.5 km rounding and about 5 km, one kilometres rounding.
If it were to change, I'd suggest 10m rounding up to 500m, then 50m rounding up to 1km, 500m rounding up to 5km (close to 3 miles) and then whole km.
It's really silly that all our designs are metric but direction signs are based on (often inaccurate) imperial measures.
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Especially when it seems that one of the big sticking points with the NI Protocol which has just arisen is the UK government's insistence that imperial measures have to be used in NI. For anyone under 50, anywhere in the UK, do they actually use imperial measures anymore, unless they absolutely have to? Metric just seems to make so much more sense, otherwise why don't we go back to using pounds, shillings and pence again?
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As I often hear in the pub: "Yes please, 568 millilitres of beer, thanks" ...Jonathan24 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 19:15 ... For anyone under 50, anywhere in the UK, do they actually use imperial measures anymore, unless they absolutely have to? Metric just seems to make so much more sense, otherwise why don't we go back to using pounds, shillings and pence again?
Quite agree with your underlying point though!
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But if you are watching your alcohol intake, buying beer by the half litre makes alcohol unit counting easier - you half the ABV figure - thus a half a litre of 5.2% beer contain 2.6 units. The "proof" of this is quite simple - one unit of alcohol is 10 ml of pure alcohol (at the presecribed temperature for the pedants). SInce 10 ml is 1% of one litre, the number of units of alcohol in litre is numerically equal to the percentage alcohol by volume.John McAdam wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 20:00As I often hear in the pub: "Yes please, 568 millilitres of beer, thanks" ...Jonathan24 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 19:15 ... For anyone under 50, anywhere in the UK, do they actually use imperial measures anymore, unless they absolutely have to? Metric just seems to make so much more sense, otherwise why don't we go back to using pounds, shillings and pence again?
Quite agree with your underlying point though!
Likewise, a standard tot (25 ml) of 40% spirits also contains one unit (40% of 25 ml is 10 ml).
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Exception is made for draught beer dispense. And Ireland still uses the pint for beer in pubs.John McAdam wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 20:00As I often hear in the pub: "Yes please, 568 millilitres of beer, thanks" ...Jonathan24 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 19:15 ... For anyone under 50, anywhere in the UK, do they actually use imperial measures anymore, unless they absolutely have to? Metric just seems to make so much more sense, otherwise why don't we go back to using pounds, shillings and pence again?
Quite agree with your underlying point though!
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