New standards for No Waiting cones?

[AndyB]

In this context, making the symbol on the cones retroreflective appears to exceed standards, which is no bad thing. The lack of a requirement to light the sign doesn't mean you cannot make it retroreflective.

Curiously, there doesn't seem to be a requirement for the Police No Waiting sign to be on any particular shape. We know they are conventionally on a three-sided pyramid sign, but unless someone can find something more specific in 2016 TSRGD, all that seems to be required is that the background is yellow, and "No loading" may also be added to the sign.

[Conekicker]

Yes, making the roundel reflective does exceed standards and is perfectly acceptable. Whether it's a worthwhile expense is another matter, as these things tend to be deployed for discrete daytime events, such as football matches and other large public gatherings. So they aren't often going to have headlights shone on them.

On the comparatively rare occasions when they are deployed 24/7 - usually for roadworks - they tend to be placed at close intervals. So in any deployment, short or long term, even if not reflective a driver might have a hard time claiming he hadn't seen the things.

The one requirement is that the sign goes on a flat surface, never curved. The working drawing shows the common triangular cone and a stand for the larger (275mm diameter) variant.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... 9-p636.pdf

I guess the stand version isn't seen so often as a number of them will take up more storage space than a stack of the triangular cones. The stand version is also likely to be more expensive and prone to damage.

[c2R]

I've seen these unlawful things with reflectorised bands quite a lot recently... good job given the colour scheme in use.

Who got the innovation bonus from the Society of Things We Didn't Need this time?

I've seen these a lot in Ireland; traditionally large numbers of people come to pay their respects, and so some element of parking control is required.

[AndyB]

The one requirement is that the sign goes on a flat surface, never curved. The working drawing shows the common triangular cone and a stand for the larger (275mm diameter) variant.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... 9-p636.pdf

Is the requirement for the sign to be on a flat surface in TSRGD or is it in TSM?

[Bryn666]

It's buried in the regs somewhere but there are many examples of temporary TM types ignoring the regs... cough green cones.

[chglm]

Quote -"The No waiting cones have been used on the road since the 1970's, originally being made of wood but then later plastic"

Never knew that about wood; they must be ultra rare! Anybody got any photos?

I can remember very early 1970's cones, no parking and road cones made of hard rubber compound but have never seen any wooden ones.