Road signs in Ireland
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I did wonder about this, because of the diamond sign. The caption on Pinterest did say 1940s, but also incorrectly identified the location as a neighbouring road. Perhaps there were trial sites for diamond signs before they were adopted? The sign seems very new here.AndyB wrote:Surely 1956 at the earliest?
The car seems an older design and there is a marked lack of traffic for 1956, this is Dublin 4 where car ownership was significant even in earlier years, but perhaps it was a Sunday morning. The car reg is illegible, can anyone identify the model?
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I suspect an Austin Eight. Best fit on my hunt so far, but will continue to look.
Certainly it has the bolt upright cabin and spotlight headlights of 1930s cars, this is a pre-WWII, or given it is Dublin pre-Emergency, car.
Certainly it has the bolt upright cabin and spotlight headlights of 1930s cars, this is a pre-WWII, or given it is Dublin pre-Emergency, car.
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The Austin 8 had a grille that was split down the middle, and the same width from top to bottom.
The car in the photo appears to have a grille that is narrower at the bottom than the top. It also has a thick chrome surround, like that found on a Rover. It isn't a P3 though ( ).
It looks more like a Morris 25, or similar.
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Yes, in both our suggestions there is something not quite there.
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Ford Model Y is also an option.
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This one has a curved bumper and offset numberplate.
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I agree that this can't be any earlier than the date of introduction of the Traffic Signs Regulations 1956 (S.I. No. 284/1956). (I was around in 1956 and pre-war cars were not at all uncommon, nor even horse-drawn vehicles.) Clearly very early days, though, with the "finial" from the old-style major-road ahead sign still in place.
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If it were post 1956 I would have thought the priority would be a new Yield or Stop sign, not this sign.Viator wrote: ↑Sat Dec 29, 2018 16:33 I agree that this can't be any earlier than the date of introduction of the Traffic Signs Regulations 1956 (S.I. No. 284/1956). (I was around in 1956 and pre-war cars were not at all uncommon, nor even horse-drawn vehicles.) Clearly very early days, though, with the "finial" from the old-style major-road ahead sign still in place.
Also, it would have been possible to experiment with advance warning signs, as these do not directly imply an action on the part of the motorist.
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I think you might be right.Isleworth1961 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 29, 2018 17:08 The car (and certainly the grille) looks like a Wolseley to me.
The grille looks right, as does the position of the headlamps. The 'gills' on the side of the engine bay and the door handles on the suicide doors also look right.
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You would think, but all it takes is for one council to say “right, we need to replace this ‘major road ahead’ sign. What’s the new version?” without connecting it to the need for a mandatory Stop or Yield sign.bothar wrote: ↑Sat Dec 29, 2018 16:38If it were post 1956 I would have thought the priority would be a new Yield or Stop sign, not this sign.Viator wrote: ↑Sat Dec 29, 2018 16:33 I agree that this can't be any earlier than the date of introduction of the Traffic Signs Regulations 1956 (S.I. No. 284/1956). (I was around in 1956 and pre-war cars were not at all uncommon, nor even horse-drawn vehicles.) Clearly very early days, though, with the "finial" from the old-style major-road ahead sign still in place.
Also, it would have been possible to experiment with advance warning signs, as these do not directly imply an action on the part of the motorist.
Do we know what was used for Stop between 1957 and the octagonal sign?
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The Octagon was introduced in the 1956 regs. I think this was discussed on Sabre before somewhere, there might have been a small revision to the diagram subsequently. All in all the 1956 changes were one of the better jobs done in the history of Irish roads.AndyB wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 14:44You would think, but all it takes is for one council to say “right, we need to replace this ‘major road ahead’ sign. What’s the new version?” without connecting it to the need for a mandatory Stop or Yield sign.bothar wrote: ↑Sat Dec 29, 2018 16:38If it were post 1956 I would have thought the priority would be a new Yield or Stop sign, not this sign.Viator wrote: ↑Sat Dec 29, 2018 16:33 I agree that this can't be any earlier than the date of introduction of the Traffic Signs Regulations 1956 (S.I. No. 284/1956). (I was around in 1956 and pre-war cars were not at all uncommon, nor even horse-drawn vehicles.) Clearly very early days, though, with the "finial" from the old-style major-road ahead sign still in place.
Also, it would have been possible to experiment with advance warning signs, as these do not directly imply an action on the part of the motorist.
Do we know what was used for Stop between 1957 and the octagonal sign?
Unfortunately, we don't know the age of the car in the photo, it could have been 20 years old, it is a pity there isn't another car there.
As a project for 2019, I might try and find out more. There was a report prior to these changes, I read this as a student 30 years ago, but now cannot even recall what it is called.
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Undated photo of this location, still one way in the same direction.
While this one is 1955, now pedestrianised
While this one is 1955, now pedestrianised
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Road sign and traffic light here in 1952. Note the tram lines have been removed from the street, which is therefore pretty newly surfaced
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Nice colour pic of old style parking sign (already anachronistic) in Dublin in 1961 (on extreme left).
This is a recent view.
This is a recent view.
Last edited by bothar on Sat Jun 15, 2019 23:04, edited 3 times in total.
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I think your first link is broken...bothar wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2019 22:38 Nice colour pic of old style parking sign (already anachronistic) in Dublin in 1961 (on extreme left).
This is a recent view.
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Oops, try it again.c2R wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2019 22:45I think your first link is broken...bothar wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2019 22:38 Nice colour pic of old style parking sign (already anachronistic) in Dublin in 1961 (on extreme left).
This is a recent view.
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Thank you - that's a great photo.bothar wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2019 23:04Oops, try it again.c2R wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2019 22:45I think your first link is broken...bothar wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2019 22:38 Nice colour pic of old style parking sign (already anachronistic) in Dublin in 1961 (on extreme left).
This is a recent view.
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Here's a few examples of old/interesting signs I spotted during my trip through Ireland recently.
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