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Divine wrote: Interesting. I've noticed the MA50'S went. They were replaced with Arcs. The last time I went down there was 3-4 years ago and I never payed attention. I do remember MA50's there though.
I can remember the MA50's on concrete columns at the A629 /A6026 / B6112 junction. The A629 was lit by MA50's from the Ainley Top roundabout to its junction with the A6026 until the lighting on the dual carriageway section (Calderdale Way) was converted to Arcs.
Yeah, in 03' I remember Ainley top to the junction having MA50's and a few other SOX fittings. Do you know what was at the graffiti spot at the A629/A6026/B6112 junction?
Some pics here.

https://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/wiki/ind ... e_Junction

It had the old Eleco type lanterns on very old curved steel outreaches prior to the changes in 1996 - the only survivors of these type are on the A646 now.
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From the SABRE Wiki: Calder and Hebble Junction :


The Calder and Hebble Junction, also known as Salterhebble Junction as the public house it was named after has long since been demolished, is a notorious location on the A629 heading into Halifax. Located just after the regionally infamous bottleneck at the northern end of the Elland Bypass the junction is the meeting of the A629, A6026, and B6112.

Traffic has always been a problem at this junction. When the Elland Bypass was completed in 1978, this junction

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Bryn666 wrote:
Divine wrote:
Robert Kilcoyne wrote:
I can remember the MA50's on concrete columns at the A629 /A6026 / B6112 junction. The A629 was lit by MA50's from the Ainley Top roundabout to its junction with the A6026 until the lighting on the dual carriageway section (Calderdale Way) was converted to Arcs.
Yeah, in 03' I remember Ainley top to the junction having MA50's and a few other SOX fittings. Do you know what was at the graffiti spot at the A629/A6026/B6112 junction?
Some pics here.

https://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/wiki/ind ... e_Junction

It had the old Eleco type lanterns on very old curved steel outreaches prior to the changes in 1996 - the only survivors of these type are on the A646 now.
Shame, didn't mind the old metal posts. The fittings in the pictures are MA50's I believe. The area in both Calderdale and Kirklees had MA50's and some old Eleco's fitted.

From the SABRE Wiki: Calder and Hebble Junction :


The Calder and Hebble Junction, also known as Salterhebble Junction as the public house it was named after has long since been demolished, is a notorious location on the A629 heading into Halifax. Located just after the regionally infamous bottleneck at the northern end of the Elland Bypass the junction is the meeting of the A629, A6026, and B6112.

Traffic has always been a problem at this junction. When the Elland Bypass was completed in 1978, this junction

... Read More
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Alpha 3's seem to light this car park in Halifax: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.72509 ... 312!8i6656
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https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.55144 ... 6656?hl=en

Some odd columns on this road in Essex .
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scott125 wrote:https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.55144 ... 6656?hl=en

Some odd columns on this road in Essex .
Interesting columns.
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Lots of Alpha 4's, MA50's and other SOX fittings coming into Denshaw. Takes me back to 06'/07'
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.59078 ... 312!8i6656
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I've just run an errand for a family member living in Cornholme (on the A646 heading from Todmorden to Burnley but still within Calderdale) and the terraced sidestreets off the A646 have been converted to LED. These are the first ones I've spotted in the Upper Calder Valley, apart from odd replacement ones (there are two on Victoria Road, Todmorden).
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FleetlinePhil wrote:I've just run an errand for a family member living in Cornholme (on the A646 heading from Todmorden to Burnley but still within Calderdale) and the terraced sidestreets off the A646 have been converted to LED. These are the first ones I've spotted in the Upper Calder Valley, apart from odd replacement ones (there are two on Victoria Road, Todmorden).
LED's are starting to become increasingly common, unfortunately. Doncaster removed a bunch of Alpha 3's in the town centre and a few MA60's. Shame.
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Remember when I went down to Pembrokeshire. I was in Cardigan some years ago and remember some great SOX fittings. I came back down summer 2017 and LEDS had taken over: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.08320 ... 312!8i6656

Also remember Pensarn in North Wales having a lot of SOX street lights. Still does, but LEDS have taken charge here: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.29547 ... 312!8i6656

A lot of these, unsure what model they are, possibly a GEC Z9539. Still here today: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.28719 ... 312!8i6656
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Divine wrote:Lots of Alpha 4's, MA50's and other SOX fittings coming into Denshaw. Takes me back to 06'/07'
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.59078 ... 312!8i6656
The whole of Oldham and Rochdale have had a huge clear out of old stock and those have all gone.
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Bryn666 wrote:
Divine wrote:Lots of Alpha 4's, MA50's and other SOX fittings coming into Denshaw. Takes me back to 06'/07'
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.59078 ... 312!8i6656
The whole of Oldham and Rochdale have had a huge clear out of old stock and those have all gone.
Shame. I believe in Tameside a SOX fitting was swapped for a SON this year. Actually, 4 were in the same patch. Two of 4 replaced were completely different makes?
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Hi all,

Within the M25, I can confirm the following locations still have the MA SOX lanterns:
  • M1 – mainline only from Junction 5 (Berrygrove) to the 31.0 marker
  • M1 – Slip roads of Junction 6 (Waterdale)
  • M1/M25 - Slip roads of Junction 6A (Chiswell) – in process of being removed or replaced, but most remain
  • M25 – Slip roads of Junction 25 (Waltham Cross)
  • A282 - southern slip roads and a short mainline section south of Junction 31 (Purfleet).
  • A406 – Two MA50s with integral gear, and one MA90 with integral gear, on the south western slip road (Great Cambridge Road)
As I have seen them in person, I have programmed the surviving instances to OpenStreetMap, and the result can be found at http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/uJ0. Sadly, I expect all of these to be gone by the end of this year.

Suspected survivors (requires further investigation - they cannot just be added to OSM for copyright reasons, as well as the age of the imagery)
  • A1168 (Debden) - MA50s along Chigwell Lane near M11 Junction 5 (August 2017)
  • A12/A406 (Redbridge) - A pair of MA50s at Redbridge Lane East, near Redbridge station (August 2017)
  • A127 (Hall Lane) – One MA50 with integral gear at the start of the south western slip road (July 2017)
  • A243/A3/A309 (Hook Junction) - Five MA50s on the north western slip road, and one more outside Topps Tiles on the north eastern slip road (July 2017)
  • A3 (Robin Hood) – One MA90 on the approach to Robin Hood Gate, Richmond Park (May 2017)
  • A3 (South Lane, New Malden) – One MA50 to the north east (May 2017)
  • A406 (Staples Corner) – Unknown number of MA50s with integral gear and MA60s on the eastern slip roads to and from the A406 mainline (September 2017)
  • A406 (Colney Hatch) – Two MA50s with integral gear at the entrance to Tesco (August 2017)
  • B556 – One MA50 and one MA90, both with integral gear, off M25 Junction 22 (June 2017)
  • St. Pancras Hospital – Unknown number of MA90s with integral gear (November 2017)
I plan to preserve a set of MA lanterns, but I know I have to do it legally. All I can say for now is … we’ll see.
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I have a brand new SRS201 for 90w lamps (MA90) with gear-in-head, so it's an MA50 body. I also have four new 90w lamps in storage. Perhaps someday when I find myself a nice place, with a decent-sized lawn, I'll get a column installed with power to use it.
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https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.77445 ... 6656?hl=en

This bit of road just outside East Kilbride still has MA s and Thorn Alpha 4s , if im guessing they date from 1988 . But one side was MA s and the other Alphas.
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scott125 wrote:https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.77445 ... 6656?hl=en

This bit of road just outside East Kilbride still has MA s and Thorn Alpha 4s , if im guessing they date from 1988 . But one side was MA s and the other Alphas.
Interesting.
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I can't find any major patches SOX in Sheffield. I saw an MA50 and a MA60 by Valley Centertainment: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.39979 ... 312!8i6656

I also saw some Beta 5's in a car park near Attercliffe as I was on the tram: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.38873 ... 312!8i6656
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Divine wrote:
scott125 wrote:https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.77445 ... 6656?hl=en

This bit of road just outside East Kilbride still has MA s and Thorn Alpha 4s , if im guessing they date from 1988 . But one side was MA s and the other Alphas.
Interesting.
Within South Lanarkshire so surprising its not been LED yet .
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scott125 wrote:
Divine wrote:
scott125 wrote:https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.77445 ... 6656?hl=en

This bit of road just outside East Kilbride still has MA s and Thorn Alpha 4s , if im guessing they date from 1988 . But one side was MA s and the other Alphas.
Interesting.
Within South Lanarkshire so surprising its not been LED yet .
Rare to see. When I went to South Lanarkshire a majority of it was lit by LED. Surprising indeed.
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Divine wrote:
scott125 wrote:
Divine wrote:
Interesting.
Within South Lanarkshire so surprising its not been LED yet .
Rare to see. When I went to South Lanarkshire a majority of it was lit by LED. Surprising indeed.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.77559 ... 6656?hl=en

I think this sign explains why .
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scott125 wrote:
Divine wrote:
scott125 wrote:
Within South Lanarkshire so surprising its not been LED yet .
Rare to see. When I went to South Lanarkshire a majority of it was lit by LED. Surprising indeed.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.77559 ... 6656?hl=en

I think this sign explains why .
Ah, right.
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