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Octaviadriver wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2019 09:27
Big Nick wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2019 00:06
Octaviadriver wrote: Mon Mar 18, 2019 16:35 This is a road sign I've never seen anywhere else, though I'm sure someone will give me other examples in places I've never visited.

I've no idea what the penalty would be if you went down there and didn't access any of the premises, but I'd guess that in the daytime no one would be bothered, but it means anyone driving around an industrial estate in the evenings or at weekends will look suspicious.
https://goo.gl/maps/jb1eQqqA3r92
I wonder if they've had trouble with late night car cruises - all those souped up motors, tyre burnouts, loud music, drink and drug driving, drag races down the main stretch etc?
Oh yes!
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/loca ... p-13487316
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/loca ... t-13345037
The ban makes sense now and there's evidence on the road that there's been a late night car cruise.
https://goo.gl/maps/Q3RZAY5cCiQ2
I'm sure if you go along there for a nosey in the middle of the day and didn't go into anywhere, no one would bat an eyelid or check up to see if you were accessing any of the premises.
Similar to signs around Tamworth and elsewhere in the West Midlands, relating to a High Court Injunction banning cruises. As seen in this article:
https://www.expressandstar.com/news/tra ... ntil-2021/
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How often are these military signs seen on British roads? I saw then quite often in Germany.
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Vierwielen wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2019 16:39 How often are these military signs seen on British roads? I saw then quite often in Germany.
Very rare. But this is Aldershot.
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While lurking on the Isle of Wight County Press website earlier, I came across a blue circular sign which features the pedestrian, cycle AND horse pictogram all in one. Presumably this means the same as the Shared Pedestrian and Cycle path sign but with horses being allowed as well. Never seen anything like it before, and i’m not surprised as surely the ‘No Motor Vehicles’ sign would have the same effect here.

https://www.countypress.co.uk/news/1770 ... ers-views/
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Peter350 wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2019 17:15 While lurking on the Isle of Wight County Press website earlier, I came across a blue circular sign which features the pedestrian, cycle AND horse pictogram all in one. Presumably this means the same as the Shared Pedestrian and Cycle path sign but with horses being allowed as well. Never seen anything like it before, and i’m not surprised as surely the ‘No Motor Vehicles’ sign would have the same effect here.

https://www.countypress.co.uk/news/1770 ... ers-views/
That appears to be an unusual way of signing a bridleway, unless I've missed something.

"No motor vehicles" would mean that non-motorised vehicles, such as Amish buggies, would be permitted - that sign is trying to avoid that.
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Chris Bertram wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2019 17:29
Vierwielen wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2019 16:39 How often are these military signs seen on British roads? I saw then quite often in Germany.
Very rare. But this is Aldershot.
Is the speed limit in miles or kilometres, is there a NATO standard ?
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vlad wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2019 19:36
Peter350 wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2019 17:15 While lurking on the Isle of Wight County Press website earlier, I came across a blue circular sign which features the pedestrian, cycle AND horse pictogram all in one. Presumably this means the same as the Shared Pedestrian and Cycle path sign but with horses being allowed as well. Never seen anything like it before, and i’m not surprised as surely the ‘No Motor Vehicles’ sign would have the same effect here.

https://www.countypress.co.uk/news/1770 ... ers-views/
That appears to be an unusual way of signing a bridleway, unless I've missed something.

"No motor vehicles" would mean that non-motorised vehicles, such as Amish buggies, would be permitted - that sign is trying to avoid that.
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vlad wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2019 19:36
Peter350 wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2019 17:15 While lurking on the Isle of Wight County Press website earlier, I came across a blue circular sign which features the pedestrian, cycle AND horse pictogram all in one. Presumably this means the same as the Shared Pedestrian and Cycle path sign but with horses being allowed as well. Never seen anything like it before, and i’m not surprised as surely the ‘No Motor Vehicles’ sign would have the same effect here.

https://www.countypress.co.uk/news/1770 ... ers-views/
That appears to be an unusual way of signing a bridleway, unless I've missed something.

"No motor vehicles" would mean that non-motorised vehicles, such as Amish buggies, would be permitted - that sign is trying to avoid that.
they're used on the "non motorised users" path on the new section of the A1307 alongside the A14 (which otherwise looks like a wide footway)
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JohnnyMo wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2019 21:51
Chris Bertram wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2019 17:29
Vierwielen wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2019 16:39 How often are these military signs seen on British roads? I saw then quite often in Germany.
Very rare. But this is Aldershot.
Is the speed limit in miles or kilometres, is there a NATO standard ?
The figures are not a speed limit but an indication of the safe load-carrying capacity of the bridge ahead.

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Peter350 wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2019 17:15 While lurking on the Isle of Wight County Press website earlier, I came across a blue circular sign which features the pedestrian, cycle AND horse pictogram all in one. Presumably this means the same as the Shared Pedestrian and Cycle path sign but with horses being allowed as well. Never seen anything like it before, and i’m not surprised as surely the ‘No Motor Vehicles’ sign would have the same effect here.

https://www.countypress.co.uk/news/1770 ... ers-views/
Reminds me of the "Horse Lane" sign at the pegasus crossing in Ashley Heath
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I happened to drive along Blackett's Wood Drive in Chorleywood on Saturday and saw this sign, which I don't think I've ever seen in the flesh before:
20200111_124040.jpg
The estate is introduced by a large, similar sign here:
https://goo.gl/maps/9BJ2g3UUN89pzeVT7
(with black/grey cancellation sign on the back)
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TS wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2020 20:04 I happened to drive along Blackett's Wood Drive in Chorleywood on Saturday and saw this sign, which I don't think I've ever seen in the flesh before:
20200111_124040.jpg

The estate is introduced by a large, similar sign here:
https://goo.gl/maps/9BJ2g3UUN89pzeVT7
(with black/grey cancellation sign on the back)
Some more locations I know of with that sign
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.06152 ... 312!8i6656
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.85195 ... 312!8i6656
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TS wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2020 20:04 I happened to drive along Blackett's Wood Drive in Chorleywood on Saturday and saw this sign, which I don't think I've ever seen in the flesh before:
20200111_124040.jpg

The estate is introduced by a large, similar sign here:
https://goo.gl/maps/9BJ2g3UUN89pzeVT7
(with black/grey cancellation sign on the back)
Getting less and less rare. There's a short stretch near Moseley Bog, just round the corner from me. I've also seen it in Leamington Spa, and there's quite a wide area covered by a pavement parking restriction in Northampton. Note that it needs repeaters for a lengthy restriction. You won't find it in London, as pavement parking is banned by default there, with any permitted exceptions signed explicitly.
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Chris Bertram wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2020 21:54 Getting less and less rare. There's a short stretch near Moseley Bog, just round the corner from me. I've also seen it in Leamington Spa, and there's quite a wide area covered by a pavement parking restriction in Northampton. Note that it needs repeaters for a lengthy restriction. You won't find it in London, as pavement parking is banned by default there, with any permitted exceptions signed explicitly.
Sorry, getting a little off topic here. In the first link I gave, it shows that restriction, and then the restriction ends a bit further on (randomly at the first junction).
As far as I am aware, double yellow lines applies to the carriageway, the pavement (if present) and the verge (if present). Surely that makes the sign (and restriction) redundant?
In addition to this, it is also a clearway. So surely it should either "no parking on verge" and "clearway". Or double yellow lines. Not all three.
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jervi wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2020 22:27
Chris Bertram wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2020 21:54 Getting less and less rare. There's a short stretch near Moseley Bog, just round the corner from me. I've also seen it in Leamington Spa, and there's quite a wide area covered by a pavement parking restriction in Northampton. Note that it needs repeaters for a lengthy restriction. You won't find it in London, as pavement parking is banned by default there, with any permitted exceptions signed explicitly.
Sorry, getting a little off topic here. In the first link I gave, it shows that restriction, and then the restriction ends a bit further on (randomly at the first junction).
As far as I am aware, double yellow lines applies to the carriageway, the pavement (if present) and the verge (if present). Surely that makes the sign (and restriction) redundant?
In addition to this, it is also a clearway. So surely it should either "no parking on verge" and "clearway". Or double yellow lines. Not all three.
I think you're missing the third option, which is that parking is allowed on the road but not on the verge. The street in my example had white-dashed bays.
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jervi wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2020 20:20
TS wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2020 20:04 I happened to drive along Blackett's Wood Drive in Chorleywood on Saturday and saw this sign, which I don't think I've ever seen in the flesh before:
20200111_124040.jpg

The estate is introduced by a large, similar sign here:
https://goo.gl/maps/9BJ2g3UUN89pzeVT7
(with black/grey cancellation sign on the back)
Some more locations I know of with that sign
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.06152 ... 312!8i6656
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.85195 ... 312!8i6656
Odd. The ones I know of on the Isle of Wight are signed thus.
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Arcuarius wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 13:46
jervi wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2020 20:20
TS wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2020 20:04 I happened to drive along Blackett's Wood Drive in Chorleywood on Saturday and saw this sign, which I don't think I've ever seen in the flesh before:
20200111_124040.jpg

The estate is introduced by a large, similar sign here:
https://goo.gl/maps/9BJ2g3UUN89pzeVT7
(with black/grey cancellation sign on the back)
Some more locations I know of with that sign
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.06152 ... 312!8i6656
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.85195 ... 312!8i6656
Odd. The ones I know of on the Isle of Wight are signed thus.
That's different. What we see there is a sign marking the end of a set of marked bays where you are *expected* to put two wheels up on the pavement, and if you step forward and turn round, you see the sign for the start of the set of bays. If you carry on past the sign with the cancel stripe, you have double-yellow lines anyway (so you could argue that it is unnecessary). The round restriction sign applies where parking is in principle allowed, but all wheels must be kept on the road.
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This is a view of New Bridge Street in Gateshead. A curious sign is on the left...
ImageWhy didn’t they simply have a no car pictogram, rather than one that requires a bit of English to be understood??
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Berk wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2020 00:56 This is a view of New Bridge Street in Gateshead. A curious sign is on the left...
ImageWhy didn’t they simply have a no car pictogram, rather than one that requires a bit of English to be understood??
Because the image of a car in a red circle means "all motor vehicles except solo motorcycles prohibited".

They have since replaced all these with blue signs showing exemptions following several TPT tribunals.
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OK, that’s fine. But how did that pictogram stretch to all motor vehicles?? It should really refer to the 4-wheeled kind.

Conversely, are there any other examples of “No cars”??
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