The best way of getting old signs

Discussion about street lighting, road signs, traffic signals - and all other street furniture - goes here.

Moderator: Site Management Team

Post Reply
M11(A14(M))
Member
Posts: 84
Joined: Fri Sep 20, 2019 19:01

The best way of getting old signs

Post by M11(A14(M)) »

Hello all,

I have been gradually getting very interested on road signs recently and after reading a few stories of getting some (including the A6144(M)), I would like to try it too. As I am in close proximity to the current A14 works and there’s a particular sign that I would like that has recently been taken down what is the best way to get hold of it. I have emailed them but obviously there’s a wait and by the time I receive the email it’ll probably be gone. Is there a specific place I can go to get it. If anyone is interested it’s the one that was at junction 30 with “A14” and an arrow pointing towards the Girton interchange. Any help would be much appreciated.
Motorways travelled on so far: M1, M2, M3, M4, M5, M6, M6 Toll, M11, M18, M20, M23, M25, M26, M27, M42, M62, M180, A1(M), A3(M), A14(M)
User avatar
Steven
SABRE Maps Coordinator
Posts: 19253
Joined: Tue Feb 12, 2002 20:39
Location: Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
Contact:

Re: The best way of getting old signs

Post by Steven »

The only way to legally get hold of the signs is to ask nicely, just as you have done. Bear in mind that signs are much, much larger than they appear from a moving vehicle.
Steven
Motorway Historian

Founder Member, SABRE ex-Presidents' Corner

Add your roads knowledge to the SABRE Wiki today!
Have you browsed SABRE Maps recently? Try getting involved!

User avatar
Owain
Elected Committee Member
Posts: 26334
Joined: Fri Aug 21, 2009 17:02
Location: Leodis

Re: The best way of getting old signs

Post by Owain »

Steven wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2019 20:38Bear in mind that signs are much, much larger than they appear from a moving vehicle.
That is one of the best pieces of advice that I've ever seen on SABRE!!! :laugh:
Former President & F99 Driver

Viva la Repubblica!
User avatar
Debaser
Member
Posts: 2235
Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 16:57

Re: The best way of getting old signs

Post by Debaser »

Steven wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2019 20:38 Bear in mind that signs are much, much larger than they appear from a moving vehicle.
As the owner of an ex-Leeming to Barton 'A1' sign I can confirm!
M11(A14(M))
Member
Posts: 84
Joined: Fri Sep 20, 2019 19:01

Re: The best way of getting old signs

Post by M11(A14(M)) »

Steven wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2019 20:38Bear in mind that signs are much, much larger than they appear from a moving vehicle.
At first I wasn’t aware of how big they are but after seeing the A6144(M) gallery I have got an idea as to how big it’ll be so hopefully it won’t be too big but it’ll have definitely some size to it. For anyone’s interest I have attached a photo of it.
Attachments
3D1272A2-6186-4EB4-89DC-B56261BCF625.jpeg
Motorways travelled on so far: M1, M2, M3, M4, M5, M6, M6 Toll, M11, M18, M20, M23, M25, M26, M27, M42, M62, M180, A1(M), A3(M), A14(M)
User avatar
Bryn666
Elected Committee Member
Posts: 35936
Joined: Thu Jun 20, 2002 20:54
Contact:

Re: The best way of getting old signs

Post by Bryn666 »

M11(A14(M)) wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2019 07:11
Steven wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2019 20:38Bear in mind that signs are much, much larger than they appear from a moving vehicle.
At first I wasn’t aware of how big they are but after seeing the A6144(M) gallery I have got an idea as to how big it’ll be so hopefully it won’t be too big but it’ll have definitely some size to it. For anyone’s interest I have attached a photo of it.
You may need a van. Or a roof-rack. Even a small sign like that designed for 70mph speeds will be quite large.
Bryn
Terminally cynical, unimpressed, and nearly Middle Age already.
She said life was like a motorway; dull, grey, and long.

Blog - https://showmeasign.online/
X - https://twitter.com/ShowMeASignBryn
YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@BrynBuck
M11(A14(M))
Member
Posts: 84
Joined: Fri Sep 20, 2019 19:01

Re: The best way of getting old signs

Post by M11(A14(M)) »

Ah yes thanks for telling me that. I should have a large enough car but if not I know someone who could help me out.
Motorways travelled on so far: M1, M2, M3, M4, M5, M6, M6 Toll, M11, M18, M20, M23, M25, M26, M27, M42, M62, M180, A1(M), A3(M), A14(M)
Sulzer:1999
Member
Posts: 392
Joined: Sat Mar 31, 2012 21:34
Location: Kincardine O' Neil, Aboyne, Aberdeenshire

Re: The best way of getting old signs

Post by Sulzer:1999 »

I’ve always found it curious why old road signs don’t hold the same attachment to people as old railway signs (totems, etc,).

Murray Duncan
yen_powell
Member
Posts: 179
Joined: Wed Feb 01, 2017 16:17

Re: The best way of getting old signs

Post by yen_powell »

It should be noted that most larger signs are actually in separate pieces before being bolted up to the posts so look for a join, it may break down horizontally.
M11(A14(M))
Member
Posts: 84
Joined: Fri Sep 20, 2019 19:01

Re: The best way of getting old signs

Post by M11(A14(M)) »

yen_powell wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:47 It should be noted that most larger signs are actually in separate pieces before being bolted up to the posts so look for a join, it may break down horizontally.
I did notice some joins on the sign. If I get it I’ll have a look and see if there is any.



Matthew
Motorways travelled on so far: M1, M2, M3, M4, M5, M6, M6 Toll, M11, M18, M20, M23, M25, M26, M27, M42, M62, M180, A1(M), A3(M), A14(M)
M11(A14(M))
Member
Posts: 84
Joined: Fri Sep 20, 2019 19:01

Re: The best way of getting old signs

Post by M11(A14(M)) »

Just a little update, I have received an email earlier on saying that I can have the sign. Should be collecting it sometime soon.
Motorways travelled on so far: M1, M2, M3, M4, M5, M6, M6 Toll, M11, M18, M20, M23, M25, M26, M27, M42, M62, M180, A1(M), A3(M), A14(M)
M11(A14(M))
Member
Posts: 84
Joined: Fri Sep 20, 2019 19:01

Re: The best way of getting old signs

Post by M11(A14(M)) »

Apologies for resurrecting this thread but since my last post things haven't gone as planned. I had no other emails from HE for a while so I got back in touch with them and asked them about it. They came back to me and said the sign had been safely taken away and scrapped. So does that mean it's gone for good or has it gone to the tip or is it gone for good?
Motorways travelled on so far: M1, M2, M3, M4, M5, M6, M6 Toll, M11, M18, M20, M23, M25, M26, M27, M42, M62, M180, A1(M), A3(M), A14(M)
User avatar
Osthagen
Member
Posts: 3342
Joined: Sun Apr 19, 2015 15:01
Location: Mercia

Re: The best way of getting old signs

Post by Osthagen »

I wouldn’t mind getting a hold of the sign removed from M6 J9, from the eastbound approach from the A461 at Wednesbury, about 2 years ago.

The appeal is that the sign featured a patched-over reference to the regional-destination “Scotland”, at least 150 miles to the south of its next reference on signage of any kind (though according to another source, “Preston” was underneath the patch). The patch said “Stafford”.

It’s probably out of Sandwell Metropolitan Borough Council’s hands now anyway.
Last edited by Osthagen on Thu Jun 11, 2020 14:55, edited 1 time in total.
"I see the face of a child. He lives in a great city. He is black. Or he is white. He is Mexican, Italian, Polish. None of that matters. What matters, he's an American child"
- Richard Nixon
User avatar
traffic-light-man
Member
Posts: 4735
Joined: Fri Sep 01, 2006 18:45
Location: Liverpool, UK

Re: The best way of getting old signs

Post by traffic-light-man »

M11(A14(M)) wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 14:13 Apologies for resurrecting this thread but since my last post things haven't gone as planned. I had no other emails from HE for a while so I got back in touch with them and asked them about it. They came back to me and said the sign had been safely taken away and scrapped. So does that mean it's gone for good or has it gone to the tip or is it gone for good?
I would suggest It'd mean it's been scrapped! :P

My experience is that it usually means a item has been passed out of the control of the authority. Where contractors are involved, there's sometimes a narrow window in which contractors will remove items on behalf of the authority but not immediately dispose of it themselves (e.g. while they collect together enough waste to make a collection by a waste disposal contractor worthwhile, or gather enough metalwork together to make a trip to a metal recycling centre worthwhile.) Given schemes often have multiple sub-contractors etc, it can be quite difficult to track down the responsible one.

Of course, contractors could very well be unwilling to pass on items from their client for numerous reasons.

If you know who the contractors are, it could be worth giving them a try.

Edited to include quote for clarity.
Simon
M11(A14(M))
Member
Posts: 84
Joined: Fri Sep 20, 2019 19:01

Re: The best way of getting old signs

Post by M11(A14(M)) »

traffic-light-man wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 14:54
M11(A14(M)) wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 14:13 Apologies for resurrecting this thread but since my last post things haven't gone as planned. I had no other emails from HE for a while so I got back in touch with them and asked them about it. They came back to me and said the sign had been safely taken away and scrapped. So does that mean it's gone for good or has it gone to the tip or is it gone for good?
I would suggest It'd mean it's been scrapped! :P

My experience is that it usually means a item has been passed out of the control of the authority. Where contractors are involved, there's sometimes a narrow window in which contractors will remove items on behalf of the authority but not immediately dispose of it themselves (e.g. while they collect together enough waste to make a collection by a waste disposal contractor worthwhile, or gather enough metalwork together to make a trip to a metal recycling centre worthwhile.) Given schemes often have multiple sub-contractors etc, it can be quite difficult to track down the responsible one.

Of course, contractors could very well be unwilling to pass on items from their client for numerous reasons.

If you know who the contractors are, it could be worth giving them a try.

Edited to include quote for clarity.
I don't think it has anything to do with the signage contractor, as they came back to the person I was talking to at HE and asked if I wanted the posts too! It was incredibly strange though how I suddenly had no replies from them.
Motorways travelled on so far: M1, M2, M3, M4, M5, M6, M6 Toll, M11, M18, M20, M23, M25, M26, M27, M42, M62, M180, A1(M), A3(M), A14(M)
M11(A14(M))
Member
Posts: 84
Joined: Fri Sep 20, 2019 19:01

Re: The best way of getting old signs

Post by M11(A14(M)) »

Does anyone know who the signage contractor for the A14 works is as it may be worth a shot to get in touch with them directly?
Motorways travelled on so far: M1, M2, M3, M4, M5, M6, M6 Toll, M11, M18, M20, M23, M25, M26, M27, M42, M62, M180, A1(M), A3(M), A14(M)
User avatar
Debaser
Member
Posts: 2235
Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 16:57

Re: The best way of getting old signs

Post by Debaser »

M11(A14(M)) wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 17:17 Does anyone know who the signage contractor for the A14 works is as it may be worth a shot to get in touch with them directly?
In my experience the signing contractors just put up new signs. Site clearance, when the old stuff is taken down, can be carried out by any groundworks contractor as (unless a sign is to be re-used) it just needs to be removed by the safest and cheapest method possible.
darkcape
Member
Posts: 2098
Joined: Wed Aug 29, 2012 14:54

Re: The best way of getting old signs

Post by darkcape »

M11(A14(M)) wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 17:17 Does anyone know who the signage contractor for the A14 works is as it may be worth a shot to get in touch with them directly?
Mason Street Furniture based near Wellingborough. They may still have some signs in their yard but as it's been so long since your original posts it's probably been scrapped. Signs taken down for site clearance don't tend to get handled too gently either!
Did you know there's more to SABRE than just the Forums?
Add your roads knowledge to the SABRE Wiki today!
Have you browsed SABRE Maps recently? Try getting involved!
Post Reply