End of Carriageway sign

[c2R]

I've never seen one of these before:



Apparently the bridge is private, and so the publicly maintained carriageway ends at that point.

[jervi]

Interesting find.
While it isn't a prescribed plate (obviously), it doesn't have to be since its on a private road, or start of.
Although what actually is a carriageway? surely a driveway or a track is still a carriageway.

[the cheesecake man]

Very silly! Clearly the carriageway doesn't end! Why not "Private road beyond this point. Authorised access only." ?

[RichardA35]

Very silly! Clearly the carriageway doesn't end! Why not "Private road beyond this point. Authorised access only." ?

I would point you very firmly towards the Highways Act 1980 and the legal definition of carriageway which is the only one to matter in this context.

[jgharston]

Very silly! Clearly the carriageway doesn't end! Why not "Private road beyond this point. Authorised access only." ?

If you want an 'end of' sign, surely 'End of public highway', as obviously the carriageway continues.

[Chris5156]

Very silly! Clearly the carriageway doesn't end! Why not "Private road beyond this point. Authorised access only." ?

I would point you very firmly towards the Highways Act 1980 and the legal definition of carriageway which is the only one to matter in this context.

Even given that, I think it's a bit of a push to say that an "other hazard" warning triangle with that text is the right way to indicate... well, whatever it is that the designer was trying to convey.

[c2R]

Very silly! Clearly the carriageway doesn't end! Why not "Private road beyond this point. Authorised access only." ?

I would point you very firmly towards the Highways Act 1980 and the legal definition of carriageway which is the only one to matter in this context.

Even given that, I think it's a bit of a push to say that an "other hazard" warning triangle with that text is the right way to indicate... well, whatever it is that the designer was trying to convey.

Maybe the (!) is chosen as the other hazard could be that the bridge is open and you drive straight into the river? And that the End of Carriageway plate is entirely separate to convey the additional warning that you've reached the end of the publicly maintained road. I agree though, it's up there with the dreadful signs of this world.


https://www.google.com/maps/@53.944201, ... 312!8i6656

[Bryn666]

It's East Yorkshire... signing isn't their strong point.

[the cheesecake man]

Very silly! Clearly the carriageway doesn't end! Why not "Private road beyond this point. Authorised access only." ?

I would point you very firmly towards the Highways Act 1980 and the legal definition of carriageway which is the only one to matter in this context.

"Public highway" may be the legal definition of "carriageway" but most road users are not legal experts so would consider "carriageway" to mean "hard road surface" so would share my confusion. Getting the message across clearly must be more important than legal exactitude? Especially in a case like this where no criminal proceedings could be affected as trespass onto a private road is not a crime.

[stevenson3529]

If you want an 'end of' sign, surely 'End of public highway', as obviously the carriageway continues.

Like this one in Dunster, Somerset.

[crazyknightsfan]

Maybe the (!) is chosen as the other hazard could be that the bridge is open and you drive straight into the river? And that the End of Carriageway plate is entirely separate to convey the additional warning that you've reached the end of the publicly maintained road. I agree though, it's up there with the dreadful signs of this world.


https://www.google.com/maps/@53.944201, ... 312!8i6656

The sign in view says "private bridge" but if you pan around you can see the bridge is also signed as a "public bridleway"

[vlad]

Maybe the (!) is chosen as the other hazard could be that the bridge is open and you drive straight into the river? And that the End of Carriageway plate is entirely separate to convey the additional warning that you've reached the end of the publicly maintained road. I agree though, it's up there with the dreadful signs of this world.


https://www.google.com/maps/@53.944201, ... 312!8i6656

The sign in view says "private bridge" but if you pan around you can see the bridge is also signed as a "public bridleway"

I don't see any reason why it can't be both.

A public bridleway is a right-of-way open to walkers, cyclists and horse riders. There's nothing saying they can't cross private land - in fact many of them do. It's motor traffic that's prohibited from going beyond the "end of carriageway" sign.