Most northern sign for LONDON
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I know, I was merely agreeing with you about SC
Harwich and Felixstowe must be good shouts in terms of actual towns though.
Harwich and Felixstowe must be good shouts in terms of actual towns though.
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If we're going for straight ratios, that's easily beaten. For instance, Lynton is signposted from Barnstaple 20 miles away, and has a population of 1157. Harwich, the better of the two options on that sign is about 17000, 15 times the size, so would need to be about 300 miles away to match. I also found Wells-next-the-Sea 16 3/4 in Hunstanton which is marginally behind Harwich, but well above Felixstowe on this measure.Bfivethousand wrote: βWed Feb 05, 2020 21:24 For England, Scotch Corner probably wins in terms of population (although... Dartford Crossing?)
But in terms of distance vs population this sign probably wins first and second prize.
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After Ponteland, there are hardly any settlements on the A696/68 and Jedburgh is the first significant settlement on this route north of Ponteland. Also it's signposted from Corbridge on the A69.DavidB wrote: βSun Feb 02, 2020 11:42 Jedburgh which has a population of about 9,000 gets signed from 56 miles away in Newcastle:
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There's a sign on the A9 just north of Inverness that warns you: John O'Groats 111Alderpoint wrote: βSun Feb 02, 2020 11:37Either this one, or this one in the opposite direction.
(Assuming you are meaning in mainland UK.)
I couldn't believe it was that far!
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Drifting off topic, but in a similar vein I am always surprised, passing Launceston on the A30, to realise I'm still over 70 miles from Penzance. I've just checked and it doesn't even make the route confirmation signs at that point - the furthest signposted at Launceston is Redruth at 50+ miles.
This is the basis of my First Rule of Driving in Cornwall: it's further than you think to Penzance. Same rule applies in the Highlands - simply substitute the name of whatever place you're heading for!
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One of my favourite signs is the one on the A9 somewhere north of Inverness (sorry can't find it on GSV) which says:Owain wrote: βFri Feb 07, 2020 19:28There's a sign on the A9 just north of Inverness that warns you: John O'Groats 111Alderpoint wrote: βSun Feb 02, 2020 11:37Either this one, or this one in the opposite direction.
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Westport, as the terminal destination of a primary route with ~9500 population has non-distanced signs ~250km away and there's distanced RCSs at ~235km - none on the more urban sections I think.
I believe its the lowest population of a primary route destination that isn't one of the port/airport additions made in the 90s which would make anywhere smaller in Ireland very unlikely to have significant distance signs to it; but I would not be surprised to be proved wrong there.
9500:250 does just need a town of 100 to have a sign 3km away from it to beat it when you drill it down of course!
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This is not a northerly one, but a few years ago I was surprised to discover an old and mildew-covered sign (a green sign that was even more 'green' than it should have been!) on the A40 in Cheltenham saying "London 94". I thought it odd that there was no mention of Oxford!
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On the same vein, Sweden has the border town of Haparanda, population 4856 and signed some 650km away in Sundsvall and possibly further south still. Intermediate towns such as Umea, Skelleftea and Lulea are seldom mentioned, at least not on the main drag.Cian wrote: βSat Feb 08, 2020 01:48Westport, as the terminal destination of a primary route with ~9500 population has non-distanced signs ~250km away and there's distanced RCSs at ~235km - none on the more urban sections I think.
I believe its the lowest population of a primary route destination that isn't one of the port/airport additions made in the 90s which would make anywhere smaller in Ireland very unlikely to have significant distance signs to it; but I would not be surprised to be proved wrong there.
9500:250 does just need a town of 100 to have a sign 3km away from it to beat it when you drill it down of course!
Sweden's primary destination strategy (*) is a little odd. Sundsvall is heavily signed along E4 from the Stockholm area, however there is little mention of Uppsala - closer to Stockholm (albeit part of the outer metro area) and three times the population - or Gavle, also with a somewhat larger population than Sundsvall.
(*) disclaimer - I'm not entirely sure whether E-route destination strategies are determined at national and / or European levels...
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Braemar in the Cairngorms has a population of only around 800. Yet its the primary destination signed from both ends of the A93 (Aberdeen 58 miles and Perth 49 miles). Though its a popular tourist destination it's still surprising given how there are more populated villages and towns (Banchory, Aboyne, Ballater) along the A93 from Aberdeen that don't end up warranting the primary destination on the road signs. It's even signed from as far away as Grantown on Spey, the A9 near Pitlochry and both the mainline and spur of the M90 near Perth.
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That reminds me of describing Plymouth as "near the end of the country" and being told "We don't think so : there's another two hours of it left."Chris5156 wrote: βFri Feb 07, 2020 21:53 Drifting off topic, but in a similar vein I am always surprised, passing Launceston on the A30, to realise I'm still over 70 miles from Penzance. I've just checked and it doesn't even make the route confirmation signs at that point - the furthest signposted at Launceston is Redruth at 50+ miles.
This is the basis of my First Rule of Driving in Cornwall: it's further than you think to Penzance. Same rule applies in the Highlands - simply substitute the name of whatever place you're heading for!
Of course it would apply the other way too. They'd reach Sheffield and think "We're in The North now. There's not much more of England." Obviously no one here considers Scotland is close.
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If it was this one you meant, Oxford is on there too, at 42 miles!Owain wrote: βSat Feb 08, 2020 08:23 This is not a northerly one, but a few years ago I was surprised to discover an old and mildew-covered sign (a green sign that was even more 'green' than it should have been!) on the A40 in Cheltenham saying "London 94". I thought it odd that there was no mention of Oxford!
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Re: Most northern sign for LONDON
You're quite right - I remember the faded zero.Gareth Thomas wrote: βSat Feb 08, 2020 23:49If it was this one you meant, Oxford is on there too, at 42 miles!Owain wrote: βSat Feb 08, 2020 08:23 This is not a northerly one, but a few years ago I was surprised to discover an old and mildew-covered sign (a green sign that was even more 'green' than it should have been!) on the A40 in Cheltenham saying "London 94". I thought it odd that there was no mention of Oxford!
I must have been so surpised to see London on there that my mind blocked out Oxford!
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I remember once having to drive from Portsmouth to Penzance withut having really considered the distance. Google maps says about 5 hours, which sounds about right, but it just seemed to go on forever.Chris5156 wrote: βFri Feb 07, 2020 21:53Drifting off topic, but in a similar vein I am always surprised, passing Launceston on the A30, to realise I'm still over 70 miles from Penzance. I've just checked and it doesn't even make the route confirmation signs at that point - the furthest signposted at Launceston is Redruth at 50+ miles.
This is the basis of my First Rule of Driving in Cornwall: it's further than you think to Penzance. Same rule applies in the Highlands - simply substitute the name of whatever place you're heading for!
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I think some people don't realise how long the south coast of England actually is. I think Penzance is slightly further from Margate than Newcastle-upon-Tyne is.Halmyre wrote: βMon Feb 10, 2020 07:16I remember once having to drive from Portsmouth to Penzance withut having really considered the distance. Google maps says about 5 hours, which sounds about right, but it just seemed to go on forever.Chris5156 wrote: βFri Feb 07, 2020 21:53Drifting off topic, but in a similar vein I am always surprised, passing Launceston on the A30, to realise I'm still over 70 miles from Penzance. I've just checked and it doesn't even make the route confirmation signs at that point - the furthest signposted at Launceston is Redruth at 50+ miles.
This is the basis of my First Rule of Driving in Cornwall: it's further than you think to Penzance. Same rule applies in the Highlands - simply substitute the name of whatever place you're heading for!
I've been involved with athletics for a number of years and the sport's South of England area stretches from Cornwall to Norfolk. A few years ago the Southern cross-country Champs were about to be held a few miles east of Exeter. An official I knew from near Portsmouth told me that someone had said that it will be nice for her to have an event more local to her than those held in the London area! As it was, those people who did drove to Devon from London for the event were surprised that it was a quicker journey in January than during the summer holidays.
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I should have said, apart from Land's End and John O'Groats.Alderpoint wrote: βSun Feb 02, 2020 11:37Either this one, or this one in the opposite direction.
(Assuming you are meaning in mainland UK.)
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I remember there being a route confirmation sign for Campbeltown on the A82 near the Erskine Bridge at 125 miles. It amazed me at the time when the furthest mention of London on the A1 was 121 miles at the time.
However in terms of miles per population Brenzett (pop 379) takes some beating with the furthest mention being 13 miles away in Kennington, Ashford. The village is in the process of losing its pseudo-primary status though as all modern signs on the A2070 sign Hastings instead.
Other notable ones from Kent are Swanley signed 36 miles away on the M20 at Ashford, and Hawkhurst signed 21.75 miles away on the B2192 east of Ringmer, East Sussex. I believe that Hawkhurst is classified as a local destination so Kent County Council's policy states 'no signage beyond five miles,' thus it is punching well above its weight.
In terms of miles per population a small village like Bonnington (pop 100) eclipses even Brenzett, with a sign at the maximum 'five miles' away in Dymchurch. It's weird how statistics work!
However in terms of miles per population Brenzett (pop 379) takes some beating with the furthest mention being 13 miles away in Kennington, Ashford. The village is in the process of losing its pseudo-primary status though as all modern signs on the A2070 sign Hastings instead.
Other notable ones from Kent are Swanley signed 36 miles away on the M20 at Ashford, and Hawkhurst signed 21.75 miles away on the B2192 east of Ringmer, East Sussex. I believe that Hawkhurst is classified as a local destination so Kent County Council's policy states 'no signage beyond five miles,' thus it is punching well above its weight.
In terms of miles per population a small village like Bonnington (pop 100) eclipses even Brenzett, with a sign at the maximum 'five miles' away in Dymchurch. It's weird how statistics work!