"Leaving built-up area" sign

[Lockwood]

I've seen one at Whiteparish.

Seen some somewhere when I've been working in Dorset, can't remember where.

[Micro The Maniac]

We used to have a very good and standardised official way of showing this. It was called a Derestricted Sign ...

In many ways, a "you are now entering" and "you are now leaving" seem a more logical means of demarking the urban speed limit (typically 30mph) than a (sometimes) arbitrary TRO (or LA equivalent).

Of course, increasingly, the 30 limit is deemed not low enough, whilst the applicable are extends well beyond the village/town limits.

So I would support the use of "you are now entering" - as meaning 30mph on the through-route (unless otherwise stated) and 20mph on residential side roads - and "you are now leaving" meaning NSL (unless otherwise stated).

[M4Simon]

I found a "leaving built-up area" sign which I've never seen in the UK before.

Does anybody have any information on these signs or any other examples in the UK?

I've seen them in Europe quite a lot but never here.

Edit: on a separate note, I find the keep right arrows strange here too, considering there isn't actually an obstacle for you to keep right of. Also, has the trend of traffic islands and loads of signs on the entrance/exits to villages been around forever or is it a relatively recent thing? I've only noticed it in the past few years myself.

That's an apalling piece of design - as you say the 610 Keep Right arrows are inappropriate. It looks very cluttered, and with the centre island signs mounted on the back of larger signs pointing the other way just looks clumsy.

The trend for islands and gateways as traffic calming features dates back to the 1990s as far as I recall.

Simon

[c2R]

The trend for islands and gateways as traffic calming features dates back to the 1990s as far as I recall.

Yes, I've never been a fan of the central island as a gateway feature, particularly when cycling it feels like you're forced to be an unwilling part of the traffic calming, with a 50mph speed differential between you and the motorist who has slowed down to follow you through because the island means there's insufficient room to overtake you, e.g. here: https://www.google.com/maps/@51.8114222 ... 312!8i6656

[Bryn666]

The trend for islands and gateways as traffic calming features dates back to the 1990s as far as I recall.

Yes, I've never been a fan of the central island as a gateway feature, particularly when cycling it feels like you're forced to be an unwilling part of the traffic calming, with a 50mph speed differential between you and the motorist who has slowed down to follow you through because the island means there's insufficient room to overtake you, e.g. here: https://www.google.com/maps/@51.8114222 ... 312!8i6656

A mea culpa on my part as I've installed such islands in the past before I really took cycling seriously as a designer. Won't be doing it again, of course.

[Fenlander]

I saw this and thought of you, Bishop Sutton

Since the sign in the picture is so well hidden by vegetation, can you be prosecuted for failing to obey it?

Initially I hadn't noticed the sign on the nearside as it's completely overgrown and I thought there's only an offside sign until I looked at the earliest view from 2009.
https://goo.gl/maps/3MKFa2HpdqW1ZuDe6

At times it feels like Lincolnshire County Council go out of their way to find the only tree or bush on a stretch of road & stick a sign behind it.This one for example is randomly positioned on that particular stretch of road, it could have been before the bus stop & greenery or further past it where's there's nothing to obstruct it but they placed it right where there's large dollops of greenery on both sides. Unsurprisingly given budgetary squeezes the bushes rarely get trimmed. Full marks though for fitting back to back single sided internally illuminated speed limit signs though, that alone must have made damn sure there was nothing left in the budget.

[Vierwielen]

A built up area sign wouldn't work well here in my opinion, but a city limits type sign may work. In some countries such as France, the city limit sign is also an urban area sign and has a 50/km limit attached to it (unless other speed limit posted). In countries such as Poland, there are two separate signs. The green one [in the attachment in the original post] is a city limits sign and the white city sign indicates an urban area and speed limit of 50km/h. These can therefore be used independently.

The difference between the British sign and the Polish sign is that one needs to be able to understand English to understand the British sign but one does not need to understand Polish to understand the Polish sign.

[Big L]

Grafton Regis

[Britain]

Grafton Regis

They even have the nice red and white checkboards underneath. Lovely.

Interesting that there are no arrows on the road to warn you that a solid line is coming up.