What's the point?

[Skipsy]

No motor vehicles, except for access, on DEAD END roads???
Why else would you enter those roads?
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.39522 ... 6656?hl=en
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.39600 ... 6656?hl=en

[Octaviadriver]

Maybe to stop you accessing them to park along there? But is that a reason to access the road if you want to park on it?

[Bfivethousand]

Maybe to stop you accessing them to park along there? But is that a reason to access the road if you want to park on it?

There's plenty of examples of these around Matlock, Matlock Bath and Bakewell, primarily to deter parking by non-residents.

[the cheesecake man]

Maybe to stop you accessing them to park along there? But is that a reason to access the road if you want to park on it?

The Highway Code defines this restriction as
"Except for access to premises or land adjacent to the road, where there is no other route."
so parking on that road is not allowed unless you then enter a property on that road.

[fras]

Maybe to stop you accessing them to park along there? But is that a reason to access the road if you want to park on it?

The Highway Code defines this restriction as
"Except for access to premises or land adjacent to the road, where there is no other route."
so parking on that road is not allowed unless you then enter a property on that road.

You beat me to it !
Except there is this sign in Crewe: -
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.09834 ... 6656?hl=en
but there are car parking bays at the end of that short street !
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.09900 ... 8192?hl=en
So is driving to the car parking spaces considered "access" ?

[the cheesecake man]

You beat me to it !
Except there is this sign in Crewe: -
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.09834 ... 6656?hl=en
but there is a car park at the end of that short street ! So is driving to the car parking spaces considered "access" ?

I would assume that the car park counts as land adjacent to the road so does amount to access. On-street parking spaces would not.

[Alinberks]

You beat me to it !
Except there is this sign in Crewe: -
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.09834 ... 6656?hl=en
but there are car parking bays at the end of that short street !
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.09900 ... 8192?hl=en
So is driving to the car parking spaces considered "access" ?

That sign is certainly pointless and in effect makes it an unsafe environment for pedestrians. The signs say it's a 24/7 Pedestrian Zone, so pedestrians should feel safe in being able to walk down the middle... except 24/7 vehicles of any sort can drive up and down it either way and mow them over... totally pointless. Double yellows along it's length both sides, so you can't park on it but it's an 'access road' like any other road, not the start of a Pedestrian Zone.

They seemed to be popular round my way in the mid 1970s and were seen as a way of making a public road into a private road for residents by default by excluding anyone else from entering. In the 1970s the police may have had the resources and inclination to enforce. In the 2020s they have no such desire. We're trying to get them removed in our area but meeting resistance from residents who consider them to be effective.... even in a street where there's a public car park at the end and recreation ground, so anyone can argue they need access. Totally unenforceable.
https://goo.gl/maps/q968q75yAvdfKkp89 (sadly the Google camera van hasn't been down this road yet, or was one of the only vehicles to ever comply with the sign...)

(I've just noticed that I joined as a member of this site in Aug 2013 and this is my first post... I'd forgotten I was ever a member but this site came up when I was searching for info on speed limit countdown markers and was dead handy for work... I may be contributing a bit more)

[Bomag]

If you think that's pointless, try Moorviewe Avenue in Shipley. One way street and dead end (https://www.google.com/maps/@53.8338476 ... 312!8i6656)

[Al__S]

There was one that was supposed to be a budget residents parking scheme in Cambridge, I think in the end the police basically said that the only way to enforce would have been to have officers on location noting vehicles entering the street and watching where the occupants went when they parked. Wildly time consuming. Far too much resources for little gain. Some residents took to vandalism (and obviously that went well). They now have a proper resident's parking zone

[Alinberks]

The police will not enforce this restriction around our way and that's why our Traffic Management team is trying to remove the signs from the small number of residential roads where they're still in place. If a restriction in access is justified then a permit parking or other type of parking scheme is introduced as a replacement. Even in the unlikely event of there happening to be a police officer present when some non resident entered the road, all the driver has to say is one of thousands of reasons why he might have entered the road (he was checking the area out as he was thinking of buying a property locally etc ) Almost impossible to enforce and a waste of police officers time.

[the cheesecake man]

If you think that's pointless, try Moorviewe Avenue in Shipley. One way street and dead end (https://www.google.com/maps/@53.8338476 ... 312!8i6656)

Not actually a dead end though. If you turn right there's another way out.

It reminds me of this alleged dead end. The end of the road has been closed off but there's fifteen possible turns before you get there.

[SteelCamel]

If you think that's pointless, try Moorviewe Avenue in Shipley. One way street and dead end (https://www.google.com/maps/@53.8338476 ... 312!8i6656)

Not actually a dead end though. If you turn right there's another way out.

There's another one in Inverness - this road is both one-way and no through road. It is a through road - if you can fit through this arch. It's not clear what large vehicles are supposed to do - and as it's where deliveries for the hotel and several restaurants go, lorries use it regularly.

[sydneynick]

There's another one in Inverness - this road is both one-way and no through road. It is a through road - if you can fit through this arch. It's not clear what large vehicles are supposed to do - and as it's where deliveries for the hotel and several restaurants go, lorries use it regularly.

I like the fact that the first link has a sign "No parking beyond this point", and then vehicles parked all the way along the street.

[Bfivethousand]

It reminds me of this alleged dead end. The end of the road has been closed off but there's fifteen possible turns before you get there.

And when you finally do reach the end of Whirlowdale Road, you encounter this .

That's sure to force all aspirant rat-runners to fully retrace their steps isn't it?

[Octaviadriver]

There's another one in Inverness - this road is both one-way and no through road. It is a through road - if you can fit through this arch. It's not clear what large vehicles are supposed to do - and as it's where deliveries for the hotel and several restaurants go, lorries use it regularly.

I like the fact that the first link has a sign "No parking beyond this point", and then vehicles parked all the way along the street.

And there's also two vehicles facing in the opposite direction of the one way street signs.

[Conekicker]

If you think that's pointless, try Moorviewe Avenue in Shipley. One way street and dead end (https://www.google.com/maps/@53.8338476 ... 312!8i6656)

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.8338617 ... 384!8i8192

If they'd got the arm widths on the ancient 817 on the left correct, that would be OK. But as they haven't - fail.
The much more recent 816 on the right displays the sadly entirely normal level of current cluelessness in the industry.

[the cheesecake man]

It reminds me of this alleged dead end. The end of the road has been closed off but there's fifteen possible turns before you get there.

And when you finally do reach the end of Whirlowdale Road, you encounter this .

That's sure to force all aspirant rat-runners to fully retrace their steps isn't it?

A few yards to the last turn yes. All the way to the misleading dead end sign no.

There's another one in Inverness - this road is both one-way and no through road. It is a through road - if you can fit through this arch. It's not clear what large vehicles are supposed to do - and as it's where deliveries for the hotel and several restaurants go, lorries use it regularly.

How about reversing the direction so that anything that can get in will be able to get out?

[Bryn666]

If you think that's pointless, try Moorviewe Avenue in Shipley. One way street and dead end (https://www.google.com/maps/@53.8338476 ... 312!8i6656)

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.8338617 ... 384!8i8192

If they'd got the arm widths on the ancient 817 on the left correct, that would be OK. But as they haven't - fail.
The much more recent 816 on the right displays the sadly entirely normal level of current cluelessness in the industry.

Bradford MDC have their own TSRGD I think. They never manage to create anything resembling a lawful sign.