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Bryn666 wrote:I think Hardie have purchased the rights to use it, it was invented in Tameside.
I saw some pictures of these before - they look awful! :no:

The concept is quite clever, and I'm sure they are very cost effective, but unfortunately the result is a streetlight with an incredibly fat base and very little elegance. I don't like them.
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Chris5156 wrote:
Bryn666 wrote:I think Hardie have purchased the rights to use it, it was invented in Tameside.
I saw some pictures of these before - they look awful! :no:

The concept is quite clever, and I'm sure they are very cost effective, but unfortunately the result is a streetlight with an incredibly fat base and very little elegance. I don't like them.
Yes they're not elegant unfortunately. I think, for slightly more money, a tapered column could have been created. With a post top lantern they'd look fairly OK then I guess.
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How about this for a beauty, complete with a period lantern.
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This one is a handsome survivor that must have been overlooked when new lights went in - probably quite a long time ago now. Compared to the lights on that street it looks very small for the type of road it's on.

And New Cross Bus Garage is home to this lonely streetlight, with a gerrymandered fitting for a newer lantern.
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Yes, fitting side entry lanterns to a top entry bracket always looks awkward.
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Truvelo wrote:Yes, fitting side entry lanterns to a top entry bracket always looks awkward.
I've seen some that use an elbow pipe join to fit the lantern to the bracket.
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There's an interesting item on one of these "How it's made" type progams, showing concrete column being centrifugally cast whilst also being pre-stressed. From my experience of modern cements used in such a configuration I would be surprised if structural failure was an issue theses days. The same goes for corrosion issues.
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Trainfan wrote:There's an interesting item on one of these "How it's made" type progams, showing concrete column being centrifugally cast whilst also being pre-stressed. From my experience of modern cements used in such a configuration I would be surprised if structural failure was an issue theses days. The same goes for corrosion issues.
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[url=https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.76619 ... 312!8i6656]These ones were normal black poles but had extra collars bolted on and then painted after installation, the collar at ground level can easily be spotted but the 'detail' where the large diameter changes to small is a bolt on too, I think there's a similar one part way up near the lamp too. The collars were red when installed and painted black afterwards.
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As of 2016, they still seem somewhat common in older residential areas in some places, although there are none that I can think of on any major roads.
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I spotted this one recently in Todmorden on my travels in West Yorkshire.
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DavidB wrote:I spotted this one recently in Todmorden on my travels in West Yorkshire.
As I mentioned above Calderdale Council put up a lot of concrete columns, especially in & around Halifax.
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RichardA626 wrote:
DavidB wrote:I spotted this one recently in Todmorden on my travels in West Yorkshire.
As I mentioned above Calderdale Council put up a lot of concrete columns, especially in & around Halifax.
In the 2009 view it had matching lanterns
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RJDG14 wrote:As of 2016, they still seem somewhat common in older residential areas in some places, although there are none that I can think of on any major roads.
In Middlesbrough and its suburbs there are a few concrete posts which have been sleeved in residential areas such as Acklam but most have been replaced by steel posts. We do have an interesting mix of lantern types from good old fashioned SOX on my street to LED's and every variation in between including some rather unconvincing fake gas lamps on Baker Street in the town centre.
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https://goo.gl/maps/V8UxTLVVKyP2

There use to be hundreds, if not thousands, of these 8M CU concrete columns in Belfast. Ironically this example out of only 2 or 3 survivors is directly behind the Transport NI Headquarters building !
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Can't say I've seen many (if any) recently. They seem to be most common in post-war housing areas.
If I'm honest, the apparent disappearance of such lampposts doesn't bother me in the slightest. They're a bit of an eyesore.
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There's a nice example here of an Alpha 3 which has been adapted to fit the top entry bracket. I wonder if it has been dayburning continuously since the June 2014 image?
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Truvelo wrote:There's a nice example here of an Alpha 3 which has been adapted to fit the top entry bracket. I wonder if it has been dayburning continuously since the June 2014 image?
I posted that near the top of this page :)

On Latham's Way in Croydon, safely behind the boundary fence of an electricity substation, two curved top-entry lights are still standing, though I doubt either of them have worked for many years.
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Chris5156 wrote:
Truvelo wrote:There's a nice example here of an Alpha 3 which has been adapted to fit the top entry bracket. I wonder if it has been dayburning continuously since the June 2014 image?
I posted that near the top of this page :)
Maybe I should have looked through the older posts first. I just clocked it driving past the other day.
Chris5156 wrote:On Latham's Way in Croydon, safely behind the boundary fence of an electricity substation, two curved top-entry lights are still standing, though I doubt either of them have worked for many years.
The closest one doesn't look as though it will stand for much longer. That is perhaps one of the best examples of spalling I have seen.
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Here's a nice one with a curved top:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.83729 ... 312!8i6656

I believe this has a mercury domed lantern when installed, and has got a sodium rectangular bulb in it in this photo.
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