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A63 rerouted ?

Post by roadphotos » Thu Apr 25, 2019 20:57

Has the A63 been rerouted around Howden. Some maps now show the A63 taking a route to the west of the town on what was a 'B Road' and then joining the A614 but others still show the A63 going through the middle of Howden. Can anyone tell me which is the correct route for the A63 and if it has been rerouted when did this happen.

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Re: A63 rerouted ?

Post by owen b » Thu Apr 25, 2019 22:25

No idea, but on a related point it's long puzzled me why a bypass of Howden has never been provided to link the A63 to the A614 near M62 J37. It looks like such a simple link to provide.
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Re: A63 rerouted ?

Post by Mattemotorway » Thu Apr 25, 2019 22:36

The A63 was re-routed to the west of Howden back in 2016, I believe, with the old route becoming an extension of the B1230.
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Re: A63 rerouted ?

Post by roadphotos » Fri Apr 26, 2019 17:15

Thanks for the information on the rerouted A63. I've just noticed that the SABRE Wiki also shows the rerouted A63 so it must have been updated. One thing I also noticed is that both the B1230 and the B1228 haven't been updated on the Wiki. Both of these 'B Roads' have had changes as a result of the A63 being rerouted to the west of Howden. The B1230 has now been extended west along what was the A63 through Howden and the rerouted A63 has taken over part of what was the B1228 west of Howden going south to the A614.

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Re: A63 rerouted ?

Post by Stevie D » Fri Apr 26, 2019 18:06

roadphotos wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 20:57
Has the A63 been rerouted around Howden. Some maps now show the A63 taking a route to the west of the town on what was a 'B Road' and then joining the A614 but others still show the A63 going through the middle of Howden. Can anyone tell me which is the correct route for the A63 and if it has been rerouted when did this happen.
This happened back in August 2016 – or at least, that's when the road signs were changed to route the A63 around the outside of the town (on the route that was signposted for through traffic before that, even though it used a B road and an unclassified road!) and the old through the town renumbered to B1230.

Surprisingly, all the road signs around both the old road and new road were completely replaced, and not just patched, and appear to be almost all correct. My only quibble is with the sign near the BP garage that shows "Beverley B1230 / Local traffic only" ... it's daft to signpost a distant destination but then say that the road is for local traffic only. (From that point to Beverley, Google reckons it saves 2 minutes to turn round at the roundabout and hop onto the motorway, but it's 2 miles shorter along the B1230). Either give it as a signposted route to Beverley, or only sign it to Gilberdyke!

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Re: A63 rerouted ?

Post by roadphotos » Fri Apr 26, 2019 18:33

Thanks for the information on the date that the A63 route was changed at Howden. The only thing I can't understand is that none of the most up to date road atlases show this change. I can only assume that they have all failed to pick up on it. Has the latest Ordnance Survey Landranger map 105 got this change ?

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Re: A63 rerouted ?

Post by Stevie D » Fri Apr 26, 2019 19:36

roadphotos wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 18:33
Thanks for the information on the date that the A63 route was changed at Howden. The only thing I can't understand is that none of the most up to date road atlases show this change. I can only assume that they have all failed to pick up on it. Has the latest Ordnance Survey Landranger map 105 got this change ?
Unlikely that it will be on the printed map, as they haven't even updated the online maps yet!

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Re: A63 rerouted ?

Post by jgharston » Fri Apr 26, 2019 22:01

roadphotos wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 17:15
Thanks for the information on the rerouted A63. I've just noticed that the SABRE Wiki also shows the rerouted A63 so it must have been updated. One thing I also noticed is that both the B1230 and the B1228 haven't been updated on the Wiki. Both of these 'B Roads' have had changes as a result of the A63 being rerouted to the west of Howden. The B1230 has now been extended west along what was the A63 through Howden and the rerouted A63 has taken over part of what was the B1228 west of Howden going south to the A614.
And Google Maps has a third version, with the A63 going down the yellow road, then taking over the B1228 into Howden and picking up the old A63 route to the roundabout. But StreetView shows the street signs as described by roadphotos.

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Re: A63 rerouted ?

Post by Mattemotorway » Fri Apr 26, 2019 22:51

Stevie D wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 19:36
roadphotos wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 18:33
Thanks for the information on the date that the A63 route was changed at Howden. The only thing I can't understand is that none of the most up to date road atlases show this change. I can only assume that they have all failed to pick up on it. Has the latest Ordnance Survey Landranger map 105 got this change ?
Unlikely that it will be on the printed map, as they haven't even updated the online maps yet!
The current edition dates from 2014! Also, map 106's current edition came out at the start of 2016 too! (Howden's in the overlap between the two)
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Re: A63 rerouted ?

Post by roadphotos » Mon Apr 29, 2019 15:05

Open Street Map shows it correct with all of the road renumbering that's happened at Howden but there can't be many others

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Re: A63 rerouted ?

Post by Chris Bertram » Mon Apr 29, 2019 20:17

The way that the link road at M62 J37 is dual-carriageway when the main A614 is only single in either direction, plus the way it points NW from the junction, suggests to me that there may once have been plans to link A63 with this junction, taking it out of Howden town a lot longer ago. Is there any evidence of something like that about in the archives or the bore-hole records?
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Re: A63 rerouted ?

Post by Stevie D » Tue Apr 30, 2019 19:10

roadphotos wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 15:05
Open Street Map shows it correct with all of the road renumbering that's happened at Howden but there can't be many others
There's a good reason for that :lol:

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Re: A63 rerouted ?

Post by jgharston » Tue Apr 30, 2019 21:21

Chris Bertram wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 20:17
The way that the link road at M62 J37 is dual-carriageway when the main A614 is only single in either direction, plus the way it points NW from the junction, suggests to me that there may once have been plans to link A63 with this junction, taking it out of Howden town a lot longer ago. Is there any evidence of something like that about in the archives or the bore-hole records?
Plus the property line at the edge of Howden very much looks like it's laid out for a road to go past.

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Re: A63 rerouted ?

Post by Chris5156 » Sat May 04, 2019 12:17

Chris Bertram wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 20:17
The way that the link road at M62 J37 is dual-carriageway when the main A614 is only single in either direction, plus the way it points NW from the junction, suggests to me that there may once have been plans to link A63 with this junction, taking it out of Howden town a lot longer ago. Is there any evidence of something like that about in the archives or the bore-hole records?
If you follow the obvious-looking line north west from that roundabout, you'll find not just that the property line is laid out to allow for a bypass of Howden in that manner, but also that after the line crosses Knedlington Road, it would run smoothly into the A63 at exactly the point the A63 presently curves away to the south. West of there, the A63 has been widened and straightened at some point; that improvement stops at the corner and the road narrows noticeably.

Borehole records or not, it very definitely looks like everything was laid out for a bypass but one was never provided.

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Re: A63 rerouted ?

Post by Berk » Wed Jul 10, 2019 23:56

What a shame, it’s be the easiest road job ever to do. In other news, OS mapping has now been updated, and shows the re-routed A63 avoiding Howden.

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