Spaghetti and Aston Expressway at 50

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Steven wrote: Thu May 26, 2022 08:00
crazyknightsfan wrote: Thu May 26, 2022 07:02
M4 Cardiff wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 13:28 I know its a dailywail article, but there are actually some really nice photos of it under construction in the link below.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... amous.html
What is with the odd diamond lane separation markings?
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/05/23 ... 913646.jpg
It was an experimental layout designed as a non-mandatory "stay in lane" marking.
The other trial site for those markings was on the eastbound A40 in London approaching Hanger Lane (the A406). They must have dated from the 1990s because that section of A40 was detrunked in 2000.

The markings themselves have been gone for years, but lane allocation signs with the diamonds on them still existed until they were replaced for the ULEZ expansion last year.
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Scottish Roads Archive had some more photos of the junction up this week. I like this one, size of that roundabout sign :shock:
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Obviously before the A38 was redirected away from Gravelly Hill to the Tyburn Road. Does it look like the sign is patched with the alternatives ready for the change underneath as it can’t have been long after opening that the change happened?
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m6tollt3suttoncoldfield wrote: Thu May 26, 2022 23:44 Obviously before the A38 was redirected away from Gravelly Hill to the Tyburn Road. Does it look like the sign is patched with the alternatives ready for the change underneath as it can’t have been long after opening that the change happened?
You might be right. The patch beneath A38 looks wide enough for A5127.
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So when was the A38 rerouted up the Tyburn Road ?
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Big L wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 07:01 So when was the A38 rerouted up the Tyburn Road ?
When the Sutton Coldfield by-pass was completed, in the early to mid seventies.
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Chris Bertram wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 07:20
Big L wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 07:01 So when was the A38 rerouted up the Tyburn Road ?
When the Sutton Coldfield by-pass was completed, in the early to mid seventies.
I'm going for 1977, going off the OS Route Planning Map. The Birmingham inset on the 1977 edition has the numbers as the photo above (A38/A4097), but the 1978 edition has them as present.
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m6tollt3suttoncoldfield wrote: Thu May 26, 2022 23:44 Obviously before the A38 was redirected away from Gravelly Hill to the Tyburn Road. Does it look like the sign is patched with the alternatives ready for the change underneath as it can’t have been long after opening that the change happened?
Yes if you adjust the contrast you can see that 'A38' is on a patch wide enough for a four-digit A number as Truvelo noted.

'Tamworth' is on a patch as well.
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A42_Sparks wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 19:49
m6tollt3suttoncoldfield wrote: Thu May 26, 2022 23:44 Obviously before the A38 was redirected away from Gravelly Hill to the Tyburn Road. Does it look like the sign is patched with the alternatives ready for the change underneath as it can’t have been long after opening that the change happened?
Yes if you adjust the contrast you can see that 'A38' is on a patch wide enough for a four-digit A number as Truvelo noted.

'Tamworth' is on a patch as well.
Yes, looks very much like a temporary plate that could be taken off the sign later.
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