The Great C Road hunt!
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For example, this piece of legislation: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2018/1404
removes trunk status from this piece of "Salford Road" https://www.google.com/maps/@52.0307545 ... 312!8i6656
The instrument implies it is part of the A421, but it isn't signed as such and wouldn't make sense to do so. I wonder if other such roads are a hangover from that sort of thing but where the new link road didn't receive an A number and was never detrunked once the scheme was complete.
It looks like some of these are as a result of HE building a bypass, re-routing the A road, renumbering the old road to ClassIII and then never transferring ownership /detrunking it - certianly the C996 White Horse Hill seems to be the pre bypass route of the A260.
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The actual tweet was from Bryn: https://twitter.com/ShowMeASignBryn/sta ... 1115871237
Would Bryn or anyone else know a bit more about where the picture was taken or even when it was taken? If we could find out exactly which road the sign is pointing at it would be helpful in working out if the C1 still exists or not.
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It's the northbound exit from the M1 at J2 Stockmans Lane, which is now the interchange with the A55. The A55 is Belfast's Outer Ring Road and was created mostly by applying a new A-road number to existing roads, so it's safe to assume that the C1 is now the A55.Euan wrote: ↑Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:34 I have just noticed an old photo on SABRE's Twitter page showing a road sign somewhere in Belfast which reads "C1" followed by "Balmoral" and "Falls". As far as I am aware there is no C1 anywhere in NI, but it looks like the known C2 (Northern Ireland) is not too far away from where this picture may have been taken so the number would not be out of place.
The actual tweet was from Bryn: https://twitter.com/ShowMeASignBryn/sta ... 1115871237
Would Bryn or anyone else know a bit more about where the picture was taken or even when it was taken? If we could find out exactly which road the sign is pointing at it would be helpful in working out if the C1 still exists or not.
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When the M1 was built, a junction was built at Stockman's lane. A new route, Kennedy Way was built towards Andersonstown Road and Stockman's lane to the Lisburn Road was widened. A stub Stockman's Lane still exists on the Andersonstown side, I suppose this could have still be called C1, but it was probably unclassified at some stage.Euan wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 19:06 That sounds reasonable - I thought all along it would have been J2 which is clearly the best match for the place names on the sign. Looking at the road list there are one or two missing numbers within the County Down number block as well, so it is entirely possible that the A55 may also have absorbed one of these missing numbers on the other side of the city.
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Geographically they are numbered in roughly the following order:
The distribution of the numbers can therefore be broken down into rough groups as follows:
C151 - C159 - Lurgan/Craigavon
C161 - C176 - South Lough Neagh/Portadown/Tandragee
C177 - C192 - Blackwater/Armagh
C193 - C210 - Keady/Markethill/Richhill
C211 - C219 - Newtownhamilton/Newry
C220 - C227 - Slieve Guillion/borderlands
C228 - C229 - out of place, north of Newry
The only numbers out of these that do not appear to currently be in use are C190, C195 and C211. It's also possible that the numbers C228 and C229 were added later given they are slightly out of place north of Newry when the rest of the sequence runs into the county's south west corner.
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Roads they maintain (and surely thus trunk?) that they couldn't off-hand back to local councils.
I've made pages, but haven't quite worked out what all the descriptions are referring to.
C993 (England)
C994 (England)
C995 (England)
C996 (England)
C997 (England)
C998 (England)
C999 (England)
From the SABRE Wiki: C993 (England) :
The C993 is Round Coppice Road between Stansted Airport and the A120-M11' [[Category:Stansted
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The geographical sequence of the numbering across the county looks roughly like this:
The distribution of the numbers can therefore be broken down into rough groups as follows:
C251 - C261 - Bangor/Ards Peninsula
C262 - C279 - Newtownards/Dundonald/Strangford Lough
C280 - C296 - Downpatrick/Lecale/Ballynahinch
C297 - C311 - Lagan Valley/SE Belfast/Dromore
C312 - C328 - Mourne Mountains/Kilkeel/Rathfriland
C329 - C342 - Warrenpoint/Newry
C343 - C355 - Banbridge
C356 - C363 - Waringsford/Moira
C364 - C379 - mixed
All of these numbers seem to be in use currently, except C301 and C372 which are unused and C264 which is defunct. There are some slight but notable exceptions to this sequence such as the C304 and the C327, but generally the pattern holds.
Interestingly, I have noticed a few cases of C2xx routes being reasonably followed on by a C3xx number within the "mixed" range such as the C369 following on from the C269 and the already mentioned C388 which follows on from the C288.
I think I am probably just over half way through adding the Northern Ireland class III roads to the wiki with three out of six counties now complete, including the two largest ones in terms of their road networks. Now onto Fermanagh...
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As well as C roads, Hampshire list U (Unclassified) and W (footpaths) - I was amused to note that my home road shares the same U number as over 300 other roads/streets of the Borough
From the SABRE Wiki: Hampshire Council %28Class III roads%29 :
he following is a list of Hampshire Council's Class III network 1.
| class="wikitable"
|+ Other Classified Roads
! Road !! District !! Road Names !! Comments
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| C1 || - || || Unused
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| C2 || Hart || Blackbushes Road || Between A30 and B3013
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| C3 || Test Valley || ||
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| C4 || Hart, Rushmoor || Minley Road, Farnborough and
... Cricket Hill Lane and Sandhurst Road,
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I drove past it about half an hour ago (in the process of completing the NI A1 in its entirety).
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Sprucefield offers many departures from normal principles of road design.Owain wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 18:42 This is the first time I've ever actually seen a C-road signposted!
I drove past it about half an hour ago (in the process of completing the NI A1 in its entirety).
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