The Great C Road hunt!
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It'll be similar to the two numbers that are already there as Calderdale isn't very geographically big. zoom= then lets you zoom in or out.
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Have you taken a look at the Roads Wiki Guide?ellandback wrote:I've now had a bash at Halifax's C5954 but need help with the route box, please. I'm not sure how to get it to focus more precisely on the correct location.
It should help with that sort of question - and if it doesn't, let us know and we can fix the missing bits.
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From the SABRE Wiki: Sunderland Council (Class III roads) :
The following is a list of Class III roads maintained by Sunderland Council.
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It looks much the same as some of the lists I have been working with. You will need to make assumptions, and quite often using the Sabre Maps overlay feature allows you to see where a route ran before a housing estate / bypass obliterated it, which will help plot routes. If you're not convinced you have the correct route, just a best guess, just word the text to reflect that and then if we ever get better details we can update. Good luck and have fun!GC_A690 wrote:I've created a wiki list of Sunderland Council (Class III roads) which I'm going to go about populating with data from the FOI request: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... ing-641084. Unfortunately the data is not in the most brilliant format and does not give start and end points for the roads in question - for some these can be inferred but for others it's not so easy.
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I think a template needs creating to go in the navbox - I think that's beyond me right now! I wonder if it would be appropriate to have one template covering the 5 met authorities of Tyne & Wear - I suspect they are numbered as part of one system although N Tyneside and Gateshead councils appear less helpful than the other three.
Oh, and I need to create disambiguation pages, but I can probably manage that myself when I get the chance.
From the SABRE Wiki: C511 (Sunderland) :
The C511 is a major urban radial route in Sunderland, running from the edge of the city centre to the western outskirts and known for most of its length as Hylton Road. It begins at a roundabout on the A1231, heading immediately west flanked by shops. After crossing the Tyne & Wear Metro line adjacent to Millfield station, the road continues past more shops and residential properties before skirting the northern edge of Sunderland Hospital.
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Otherwise, I can't see any problems, thanks!
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It would be interesting, if not amazing, if anything longer turned up!
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From the SABRE Wiki: C125n (Dumfries and Galloway) :
The C125n is perhaps the longest C road in the country. It stretches for over 24 miles through Nithsdale, sometimes on the river bank and sometimes away in the hills to the west. The route starts on the A76 at Cadgerhall on the south side of Kirkconnel Bridge and heads south east past Kelloholm as it follows the Nith downstream. It is almost on the riverbank as it passes Sanquhar on the opposite bank, but then climbs away for a time before returning to the river at Eliock Bridge -
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I've not found anything anywhere near as long yet - a 10 miler in Cambs and something a bit longer in Herts. It'd be good if we had more documentation on how some of the templates work - we've got the data on the site, so it would be good to be able to list the top ten by length for example out of all C Roads.rileyrob wrote:I think I may have found the longest C road in the country - the C125n (Dumfries and Galloway). At 24.3 miles long, it exceeds the Kinloch Hourn Road, which is a mere 21.6 miles (but probably still the longest dead end), and all the other C roads I have come across so far in Scotland.
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From the SABRE Wiki: C125n (Dumfries and Galloway) :
The C125n is perhaps the longest C road in the country. It stretches for over 24 miles through Nithsdale, sometimes on the river bank and sometimes away in the hills to the west. The route starts on the A76 at Cadgerhall on the south side of Kirkconnel Bridge and heads south east past Kelloholm as it follows the Nith downstream. It is almost on the riverbank as it passes Sanquhar on the opposite bank, but then climbs away for a time before returning to the river at Eliock Bridge -
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As far as I can tell, the C14 (East Renfrewshire) listed by ER council is in Johnstone in Renfrewshire!
I am really not at all sure I have found the correct route for the C16 (East Renfrewshire), but this is my best guess, as I cannot find a Broadlea Road.
Unless anyone can work it out another way, there appears to be a lengthy useless multiplex between the C40 (East Renfrewshire) and the C44 (East Renfrewshire)
The council list can be found here: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... _roads_125
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From the SABRE Wiki: East Renfrewshire Council (Class III roads) :
C-Class roads in the East Renfrewshire Council area. The numbers appear to be shared with the other two Renfrewshire councils.
- http://www.eastrenfrewshire.gov.uk/chttphandler.ashx?id0]; [https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/list_of_roads_125
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Unlike Aberdeenshire, however, no effort has been made to unify routes with a single suffix, as a rule anyway. The C14s is listed with a duplication of the route described as the C14n. I'm not sure if this is a clumsy description for the latter, or if the former has been renumbered.
I think Glen said that Highland used a similar system with suffixes until a few years ago when everything was renumbered afresh.
As for the other regions where suffixes may have been used:
Strathclyde - no evidence that the old county systems were ever replaced, nor that any suffixes were applied. Where boundaries (primarily Dunbartonshire & North Lanarkshire) have moved, routes seem to have been renumbered to fit as needed.
Lothian - All of the C roads appear to have been numbered in a contiuous system running west to east. Further changes in Edinburgh.
Borders - ditto. However, they do work by county from west to east, but are numbered in the sequence of the easternmost county
Tayside - there is a confusion of numbering systems here, but they overlap one another, so I don't think it is as simple as adding a 4 or 2 to the front of an old number. Numbers also cross council / county borders.
Central - all routes renumbered, fairly randomly
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In the former Tayside region we have the following numbering in use:
Cx-Cxx rural routes scattered across the region, but mostly in Angus.
C1xx - apparently not used
C2xx - Dundee
C3xx - apparently not used
C4xx - Rural routes predominantly in Perth & Kinross
C5xx - ditto
C6xx - Urban routes in Angus.
I can find no list detailing any C roads wholly within Perth, nor indeed many short routes within other towns / urban areas within Perthshire. I am therefore suspecting the the C1xx and C3xx numbers were used for these roads, as it seems highly unlikely that there were never any C roads within any of the Perthshire towns. However, I cannot find any evidence on line to support this (ignoring various C3xx in Perth WA).
I also suspect, although cannot prove it, that the first digit of the number was added in a similar manner to the suffixes used in Aberdeenshire or Dumfries and Galloway, in order to ensure all routes had a unique number (with a few crossing district borders).
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There are 2 councils (Glasgow and Renfrewshire) where no appropriate list seems to be available, and a number where the data is questionable / probably incomplete, but everything I have found (with some help as above), with any certainty is now on the Wiki.
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Thank you Rob - your hard work is, as ever, very much appreciated.rileyrob wrote:With the exception of any caveats in posts above, that is Scotland now complete.
There are 2 councils (Glasgow and Renfrewshire) where no appropriate list seems to be available, and a number where the data is questionable / probably incomplete, but everything I have found (with some help as above), with any certainty is now on the Wiki.
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I second that. Having done half of Hertfordshire and half of Cambridgeshire now I can testify to how time consuming it is!Steven wrote:Thank you Rob - your hard work is, as ever, very much appreciated.rileyrob wrote:With the exception of any caveats in posts above, that is Scotland now complete.
There are 2 councils (Glasgow and Renfrewshire) where no appropriate list seems to be available, and a number where the data is questionable / probably incomplete, but everything I have found (with some help as above), with any certainty is now on the Wiki.
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My mission is to travel every road and visit every town, village and hamlet in the British Isles.
I don't like thinking about how badly I am doing.
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If I find anything else I'll let you know!