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St Peters Square

Post by wrinkly » Fri Apr 02, 2021 14:40

You learn some wonderful things from the Wiki, such as that St Peter's Square is in Wolverhampton. Next time I want to visit the Pope I'll bear it in mind.

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Re: St Peters Square

Post by Steven » Sat Apr 03, 2021 08:51

Indeed it is, and it's somewhere with an interesting and confusing history, even to native Wulfrunians.

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From the SABRE Wiki: St Peters Square :

St. Peter's Square is a location within Wolverhampton city centre with a confusing history, even to native Wulfrunians. Historically, it was neither a square, nor a junction, but now it is both of those things, even if the connecting streets are now all pedestrianised...


The historic location of St. Peter's Square is somewhat of a misnomer. Whilst the more famous St. Peter's Square in Rome might be more readily brought to mind, the Wulfrunian version wasn't a square at all, but

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Re: St Peters Square

Post by wrinkly » Sat Apr 03, 2021 10:58

Other St Peter's Squares are available, even in the UK.

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Re: St Peters Square

Post by SteelCamel » Sat Apr 03, 2021 11:04

It's also in Manchester - the Metrolink stop south of the Piccadilly Gardens triangular junction, so where a lot of passengers will change as the tram they're on is going the wrong way at that junction.

And in Stockport, Nottingham, London, Ruthin... there's probably hundreds. Wikipedia notes over 200 St Peter's churches in the UK (and that's just the ones notable enough to have an article). Churches often have a square in front of them. And the obvious thing to call the square in front of St Peter's Church is St Peter's Square (at least if there's more than one church nearby - otherwise Church Square will do).

What perhaps is surprising is how few of these are important enough to be worth a mention on the SABRE wiki. Apart from St Peter's Square, there's St Peters Bridge, which apparently only merits one sentence, St Peters Church junction in Brighton, and St Peters Way, the M25 link with an unclear number.

The other St Peter's Way, in Bolton, doesn't seem to be mentioned. There is a story that it was named that in response to the number being A666, the idea being that naming it after St Peter would cancel out the "number of the beast". On the other hand, it does pass right behind St Peter's Church, which is a much less interesting reason for the name.

From the SABRE Wiki: St Peters Bridge :

St Peters Bridge is a bridge carrying the A5189 across the River Trent in Stapenhill, Burton upon Trent. [[Category:Burton upon

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Re: St Peters Square

Post by Bryn666 » Mon Apr 05, 2021 22:42

SteelCamel wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 11:04
It's also in Manchester - the Metrolink stop south of the Piccadilly Gardens triangular junction, so where a lot of passengers will change as the tram they're on is going the wrong way at that junction.

And in Stockport, Nottingham, London, Ruthin... there's probably hundreds. Wikipedia notes over 200 St Peter's churches in the UK (and that's just the ones notable enough to have an article). Churches often have a square in front of them. And the obvious thing to call the square in front of St Peter's Church is St Peter's Square (at least if there's more than one church nearby - otherwise Church Square will do).

What perhaps is surprising is how few of these are important enough to be worth a mention on the SABRE wiki. Apart from St Peter's Square, there's St Peters Bridge, which apparently only merits one sentence, St Peters Church junction in Brighton, and St Peters Way, the M25 link with an unclear number.

The other St Peter's Way, in Bolton, doesn't seem to be mentioned. There is a story that it was named that in response to the number being A666, the idea being that naming it after St Peter would cancel out the "number of the beast". On the other hand, it does pass right behind St Peter's Church, which is a much less interesting reason for the name.
Yes, it's because it passes the church, no real exciting reasons involving the debbil or any guff.

Given that, to call it by its working title, the Croal Valley Urban Motorway is 50 years old in December I should do some digging about its history...
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From the SABRE Wiki: St Peters Bridge :

St Peters Bridge is a bridge carrying the A5189 across the River Trent in Stapenhill, Burton upon Trent. [[Category:Burton upon

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Re: St Peters Square

Post by Steven » Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:36

wrinkly wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 10:58
Other St Peter's Squares are available, even in the UK.
Indeed, but no-one's taken the time to write about them yet - and resolving that is always welcomed.

Possibly a number of them are quite dull!
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