What countries have bi, tri (or even more?!) lingual signs?
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This Israeli Sign has 3 languages, 3 alphabets and 2 different writing directions. http://www.rhinocarhire.com/CorporateSi ... Israel.jpg
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This is the Perpignan, which is in Catalunya, having Catalan signs?HPM wrote:In France some regions have their own language (Britain, Pays Basque, Corse...), and these languages persist with the tradition, so we could find bi-lingual signs, mainly on the input of local signs.
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For me, the most abusive bi-lingual signs are in Perpignan, next to Spain : all the directional signs are translate in Catalan !
The same Perpignan in PO dept which has a gold background with 4 blood streaks, the basis of the catalan flag, has sign written in catala?
Google images say this sign
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has 6 languages, and that misses 2 of the official languages of norn iron.
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Yes, Perpignan is a French city in the departement of Pyrénées-Orientales (P-O), the French Catalunya. It's France, but Catalunya and hispanic identity are very strong (it's why signs are wrote in French and Catalan).
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Whilst taking a StreetView road trip around the fire-affected areas of Portugal, I came across this sign at the temporary end of the A13.
As brand new dual carriageways go it strikes me as pretty darn steep and twisty, the authorities must also think so by installing the sign not just in Portuguese but also in English!
What would the conventional Spanish translation be for "Keep in low gear" - if it's significantly different from "Trave con o motor" (crudely translated as "lock with the engine") I would be surprised that English was chosen in favour of it.
Incidentally, I was surprised how similar Portuguese signing was to British signing - lots of Transport Heavy / Medium, identical designs for ADSs, route confirmatory signs etc. and many examples of carbon copies of regulatory signing too, e.g. speed limits.
As brand new dual carriageways go it strikes me as pretty darn steep and twisty, the authorities must also think so by installing the sign not just in Portuguese but also in English!
What would the conventional Spanish translation be for "Keep in low gear" - if it's significantly different from "Trave con o motor" (crudely translated as "lock with the engine") I would be surprised that English was chosen in favour of it.
Incidentally, I was surprised how similar Portuguese signing was to British signing - lots of Transport Heavy / Medium, identical designs for ADSs, route confirmatory signs etc. and many examples of carbon copies of regulatory signing too, e.g. speed limits.
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Bicester has trilingual signs. English, Arabic and Chinese.
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The French A5 has several bilingual signs about engine braking.Bfivethousand wrote:What would the conventional Spanish translation be for "Keep in low gear" - if it's significantly different from "Trave con o motor" (crudely translated as "lock with the engine") I would be surprised that English was chosen in favour of it.
There is no Spanish on the A5, but I'd imagine that the phrase would be something more similar to the Italian (shown on the latter of those two signs) than to Portuguese. The Italian is a direct translation of 'use your engine braking'.
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They set up a sign in Haderslev, Denmark, with the town's name bilingual in Danish/German.
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This thread took me back sixteen years.
I was working in Jersey in 2001, when the languages used on certain roadsigns expanded from:
English-French-Portuguese (reflecting the large number of hotel workers from the Algarve et al) to:
English-French-Portuguese-Polish (reflecting........).
An interesting moment in the history of population migration.
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I was working in Jersey in 2001, when the languages used on certain roadsigns expanded from:
English-French-Portuguese (reflecting the large number of hotel workers from the Algarve et al) to:
English-French-Portuguese-Polish (reflecting........).
An interesting moment in the history of population migration.
Mike
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Re: What countries have bi, tri (or even more?!) lingual signs?
Interesting!Bfivethousand wrote:Whilst taking a StreetView road trip around the fire-affected areas of Portugal, I came across this sign at the temporary end of the A13.
As brand new dual carriageways go it strikes me as pretty darn steep and twisty, the authorities must also think so by installing the sign not just in Portuguese but also in English!
What would the conventional Spanish translation be for "Keep in low gear" - if it's significantly different from "Trave con o motor" (crudely translated as "lock with the engine") I would be surprised that English was chosen in favour of it.
Incidentally, I was surprised how similar Portuguese signing was to British signing - lots of Transport Heavy / Medium, identical designs for ADSs, route confirmatory signs etc. and many examples of carbon copies of regulatory signing too, e.g. speed limits.
The Spanish equivalent would be "utilice freno motor" (use engine brake) or sometimes "use motor como freno" (use engine as brake). I expect that the words "con motor" at the top of a steep descent are sufficient in themselves for any Spanish visitors with only rudimentary Portuguese to be able to guess that "travar" means "brake".
The English wording, of course, comes at it from another angle. It's notable that the Portuguese sign-makers have gone for the British "keep in low gear" rather than the "stay in low gear" more usually seen west of the Atlantic.
As you've observed, the British influence on the design of Portuguese signs (especially in relation to directional signage) is quite strong. (The contrast between modern signs and antique, but still surviving in places, more French-influenced signs -- Portugal's equivalent of "pre-Worboys"? -- is also very noticeable.)
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The are some bi-lingual signs in Pennsylvania, USA.
There is a language in Pennsylvania called 'Pennsylvania Dutch', which is a somewhat misleading name as the language is actually a dialect of German.
The sign below, for example lists 'Cat's Back Road', a street in Lancaster County, PA, in both its English form and its Pennsylvania Dutch one, Katze Boucle Weeg.
There is a language in Pennsylvania called 'Pennsylvania Dutch', which is a somewhat misleading name as the language is actually a dialect of German.
The sign below, for example lists 'Cat's Back Road', a street in Lancaster County, PA, in both its English form and its Pennsylvania Dutch one, Katze Boucle Weeg.
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I don't think it's been mentioned before, but directional signage in the north of Hokkaido, Japan, is in Japanese, English, and Russian:
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7486 ... 0/sign.jpg
Which is nice for visitors -- I do hate the way, though, that Japanese sign-makers will never use two lines for anything: when space is tight they just squash everything up to the point of near-total illegibility...
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7486 ... 0/sign.jpg
Which is nice for visitors -- I do hate the way, though, that Japanese sign-makers will never use two lines for anything: when space is tight they just squash everything up to the point of near-total illegibility...
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Not signage, but Emirates have multilingual announcements; English and Arabic on the UK-Dubai leg and English, Arabic and Japanese on the Dubai-Japan leg.
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Not to mention it's using transport font and they layout would be familiar on UK roads.Viator wrote: As you've observed, the British influence on the design of Portuguese signs (especially in relation to directional signage) is quite strong. (The contrast between modern signs and antique, but still surviving in places, more French-influenced signs -- Portugal's equivalent of "pre-Worboys"? -- is also very noticeable.)
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NHK World - the Japanese TV service in the UK on Sky channel 507 noted at the end of tonight news that all road signs will now be bi-lingual English/Japanese starting with primarily tourist areas but will be rolled out across the country .
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There is plenty of bilingual signage on both sides of the border in Sønderjylland and Slesvig. Bilingualism there is quite useful: I read Danish far faster than I read German, but spoken German is (generally) easier to understand than spoken Danish.Goldberg wrote:They set up a sign in Haderslev, Denmark, with the town's name bilingual in Danish/German.
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If Japan is seeking to develop tourism this is probably useful. Will it be English or Romanised Japanese?B9127 wrote:NHK World - the Japanese TV service in the UK on Sky channel 507 noted at the end of tonight news that all road signs will now be bi-lingual English/Japanese starting with primarily tourist areas but will be rolled out across the country .
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Come to think of it, I've encountered one or two bilingual Norwegian/Sami signs in Norway.
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I remember a sign at a services near London that had French , Spanish etc but also it had albanian . Never met any albanians hereFosseWay wrote:I've always thought it an odd choice as well, especially at Dover. Back in the days of direct ferry connections with Scandinavia the ferries landed at Harwich, Hull and Newcastle, not Dover.Comstock wrote:That does seem an odd choice. I would have though Dutch, Polish or maybe Italian would be more sensible choices for the fourth most common language for incomming drivers.scragend wrote:
On the way out of Dover on the A2, there are "keep left" signs in English, French, German and Swedish ("Kör till vänster").
The others I can understand, but why Swedish - are there enough Swedes passing through Dover to warrant it?
The failure to choose Polish, which today would be a self-evident choice, can be explained by the fact that those signs have been there for a very long time. They predate the entry of Poland etc. into the EU and possibly even the fall of the Wall.
Clutching at straws here, but could Swedish have been chosen because it is also intelligible by Danes and Norwegians? Even so, for all three nationalities English is a more obvious choice than any of the other Scandinavian languages.
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Clacket Lane? English, German, French and Czech.scott125 wrote:I remember a sign at a services near London that had French , Spanish etc but also it had albanian . Never met any albanians here
Quite why Czech rather than Polish I don't know.
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