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http://en.people.cn/n3/2021/0409/c90000-9837433.html Some photos of China Expressway - quite impressive
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B9127 wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:03 http://en.people.cn/n3/2021/0409/c90000-9837433.html Some photos of China Expressway - quite impressive
Imagine the protest if the UK build a bridge like that.
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There's some fabulous drool-worthy pictures in there. Photo #7 shows an elevated motorway winding down a large, steep-sided valley. I remember seeing a picture of a similarly intrusive (but impressive!) construction in the USA. I can't remember where ...
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They know how to build stuff in China. There was a repeat on Yesterday this morning about Beijing Daxing International Airport which they built in 5 years. It took 4 years to extend the Metro in Birmingham a whopping 1,300 yards. It took them over a week to put together a Meccano tram stop.
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The development of the Chinese expressway/motorway system over the past 25 years - and especially since 2005, is a highly impressive feat of engineering and labour. On a par with - or even probably exceeding - the USA interstate freeway building in the 1960s and 70s.

Given the challenging terrain in much of Southern and Eastern China - steep-sided mountains, deep valleys, rivers etc some of the bridge structures and tunnels are jaw-dropping.

Am I correct in guessing that China now has the world’s most extensive motorway network?
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Enceladus wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 17:08 The development of the Chinese expressway/motorway system over the past 25 years - and especially since 2005, is a highly impressive feat of engineering
Similarly with their high speed rail network. This staggering capability is what makes the un-democratic authoritarian state so militarily worrying.
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Peter Freeman wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:19 There's some fabulous drool-worthy pictures in there. Photo #7 shows an elevated motorway winding down a large, steep-sided valley. I remember seeing a picture of a similarly intrusive (but impressive!) construction in the USA. I can't remember where ...
Interstate H-3 on O`ahu perhaps?
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While the "People's Republic of" China have been very impressive with all their large infrastructure projects, I do doubt the quality of construction. Costs of maintaining all of those concrete viaducts along with hundreds of thousands of miles of expressway cannot be cheap, especially when "tofu construction" plagues a lot of PR China's construction. I'd expect in a few decades from now for it to be common for structural failures causing fatalities.
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Yes in a country of 1.3 Billion there is going to be a lot of structural failures, but the age and frequency of these are a little too worrying.

Also it is cheap for them to build all of these new expressways & railways due to cheap labour, lack of safety or welfare of labours, little or no consultation with local population, little or no mitigation of environmental issues.
NGL, it does make me jealous, but then I'd rather live in a country where there is a very good quality of life and no suppression than a depressing dictatorship with tolled expressways everywhere.
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bart wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 22:56 Interstate H-3 on O`ahu perhaps?
No. I've driven that one - nice road, but the one I'm thinking of is quite different.
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B9127 wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:03 http://en.people.cn/n3/2021/0409/c90000-9837433.html Some photos of China Expressway - quite impressive
The road looks impressive, but where is the traffic? Or is China investing is a high quality road network for the same reason that South Africa did in the 1980's - it would facilitate a rapid movement of troops should the need arise.
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Peter Freeman wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 23:16
bart wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 22:56 Interstate H-3 on O`ahu perhaps?
No. I've driven that one - nice road, but the one I'm thinking of is quite different.
It will be this then....

https://protectnepa.org/colorado-interstate-70/

quite the impressive road
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bart wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 22:56
Peter Freeman wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:19 There's some fabulous drool-worthy pictures in there. Photo #7 shows an elevated motorway winding down a large, steep-sided valley. I remember seeing a picture of a similarly intrusive (but impressive!) construction in the USA. I can't remember where ...
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Gav wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 19:04
It will be this then....

https://protectnepa.org/colorado-interstate-70/

quite the impressive road
That's the one. It's a beautiful road in a beautiful natural location. Also to be noted (topically to us, now) is that it's mainly ALR.
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Peter Freeman wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 02:49
Gav wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 19:04
It will be this then....

https://protectnepa.org/colorado-interstate-70/

quite the impressive road
That's the one. It's a beautiful road in a beautiful natural location. Also to be noted (topically to us, now) is that it's mainly ALR.
Interestingly just west of there, at the west of Glenwood Springs, there's a dumbbell interchange. One roundabout is rare enough in the US, but two!? Also the point at which the Glenwood Canyon bike trail stops existing and you're back to cycling on I-70 itself to continue down the corridor.
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solocle wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:02
Peter Freeman wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 02:49
Gav wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 19:04
It will be this then....

https://protectnepa.org/colorado-interstate-70/

quite the impressive road
That's the one. It's a beautiful road in a beautiful natural location. Also to be noted (topically to us, now) is that it's mainly ALR.
Interestingly just west of there, at the west of Glenwood Springs, there's a dumbbell interchange. One roundabout is rare enough in the US, but two!? Also the point at which the Glenwood Canyon bike trail stops existing and you're back to cycling on I-70 itself to continue down the corridor.
As discussed elsewhere, roundabouts are cropping up in large numbers across the USA now.
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Bryn666 wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 22:54
solocle wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:02
Peter Freeman wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 02:49
That's the one. It's a beautiful road in a beautiful natural location. Also to be noted (topically to us, now) is that it's mainly ALR.
Interestingly just west of there, at the west of Glenwood Springs, there's a dumbbell interchange. One roundabout is rare enough in the US, but two!? Also the point at which the Glenwood Canyon bike trail stops existing and you're back to cycling on I-70 itself to continue down the corridor.
As discussed elsewhere, roundabouts are cropping up in large numbers across the USA now.
Indeed the notion that the US is a country unusually resistant to roundabouts is odd - there are plenty of countries where roundabouts have got far less traction, including Germany and Japan.
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I heard that Japanese struggled with roundabouts when some were experimentally installed.
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RichardA626 wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 22:00 I heard that Japanese struggled with roundabouts when some were experimentally installed.
Not only is the roundabout as we know it not present in every country, even the concept of any kind of circular at-grade junction at all is absent from some, including, I believe, Japan.
I think that roundabouts are something a lot of people struggle with when learning to drive, so it's not at all surprising that in cultures where they never had them, experienced drivers would find them tough going.
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