A9 dualling
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The second pre-inquiry meeting for Dalraddy to Slochd was held on 9 March. This additional meeting was necessarily due to two statutory objectors making very late requests to take part in the inquiry process (long after the original sessions had been arranged). Additionally, both objectors seem to want to expand their original objections and so to give time for this and for Transport Scotland to respond, the second set of inquiry sessions (which will be held over 3 and 4 days for each objector respectively) will now not take place until June.
In light of current events however, I can see this being delayed even more which is unfortunate considering this scheme has the longest construction timescale.
In light of current events however, I can see this being delayed even more which is unfortunate considering this scheme has the longest construction timescale.
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One of the two objectors in the last post have now decided not to take part in inquiry sessions (although they are maintaining their objection) so these sessions have now been cancelled. Sessions will still be required in June (although this may be delayed further due to current events) however for the other statutory objector.
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Construction work has been temporarily halted on the Luncarty to Birnam upgrade.
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The article mentions security measures are in place. So if someone is spotted nicking some equipment is whoever is on patrol going to nab the thief or politely tell them from two metres away to put the stolen goods down?orudge wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:57 Construction work has been temporarily halted on the Luncarty to Birnam upgrade.
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I’m sure that some justifiable exceptions to the social distancing guidelines will exist. Arresting a thief may be seen as close contact with non-occupants of the same household as part of “essential work”.Truvelo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 18:52The article mentions security measures are in place. So if someone is spotted nicking some equipment is whoever is on patrol going to nab the thief or politely tell them from two metres away to put the stolen goods down?orudge wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:57 Construction work has been temporarily halted on the Luncarty to Birnam upgrade.
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Saw someone being done, in the Stobswell Lidl car park the other day, they walked away briefly to put on gloves then turned roon and huckled him.
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A reporter has now been allocated for Crubenmore to Kincraig although progress is likely to be slow given current events.
For Dalraddy to Slochd, it is not clear if the inquiry sessions planned for June will be able to be held although a virtual inquiry has been suggested. If this is not possible then a further delay is likely. Transport Scotland not happy that the objector has effectively been able to introduce new objections to the scheme at this stage in the proceedings (causing a significant delay) but the objector says that the bridge design does not meet current guidelines and that the flood risk modelling is inaccurate. Hopefully this can be resolved.
For Dalraddy to Slochd, it is not clear if the inquiry sessions planned for June will be able to be held although a virtual inquiry has been suggested. If this is not possible then a further delay is likely. Transport Scotland not happy that the objector has effectively been able to introduce new objections to the scheme at this stage in the proceedings (causing a significant delay) but the objector says that the bridge design does not meet current guidelines and that the flood risk modelling is inaccurate. Hopefully this can be resolved.
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Forgive my ignorance but is part of the delay on the A9 due to not knowing the final route.
For example, what would be the point in dualling one particular section (say half way up) if they cant agree on either side of that which is the best particular route. (ie it may not marry up route wise).
For example, what would be the point in dualling one particular section (say half way up) if they cant agree on either side of that which is the best particular route. (ie it may not marry up route wise).
Dual the A9, dual and bypass the A77, and bypass Crocketford and Springholm on the A75.
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Pass of Birnham to Tay Crossing is in reality a rather short section, heading north it already starts with a Dual Carriage way tailing in, and all route options are online unless someone manages to convince TS that a fairly long offline tunnel is a good idea...;DaStreetsweep wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 22:44 Forgive my ignorance but is part of the delay on the A9 due to not knowing the final route.
For example, what would be the point in dualling one particular section (say half way up) if they cant agree on either side of that which is the best particular route. (ie it may not marry up route wise).
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I really don't get what's wrong with an online upgrade past Dunkeld. There's plenty of space for a second carriageway and grade separated junctions without the need for all the expensive alternatives and flat roundabout proposals that keep appearing.Nwallace wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 23:54Pass of Birnham to Tay Crossing is in reality a rather short section, heading north it already starts with a Dual Carriage way tailing in, and all route options are online unless someone manages to convince TS that a fairly long offline tunnel is a good idea...;DaStreetsweep wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 22:44 Forgive my ignorance but is part of the delay on the A9 due to not knowing the final route.
For example, what would be the point in dualling one particular section (say half way up) if they cant agree on either side of that which is the best particular route. (ie it may not marry up route wise).
On the other hand; long tunnel please.
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Actually, there's an abundance of problematic roads in Scotland where the addition of some tunneling would literally solve everything.
The A82 around Loch Lomond is an example of this.
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That's very true and the A82 around Loch Lomond is the perfect example of a location where some tunnelling would be advantageous for a number of reasons. Just how imagine how good it'd be if the old road became a traffic free greenway.
However, the A9 at Dunkeld does not fall into the problematic category. They're just making a mountain out of a molehill. Ironically, if they made the mountain, the Dunkeldians might have something to tunnel through.
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From what I can see it is a very expensive way of reducing/removing the road noise from a new D2 route past Dunkeld, nice to have but not at the expense of other new stretches. This section will remain S2 until the others have been completed along the route due to the cost.
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Wasn’t really referring to the Pass of Birnam, which should be relatively simple.Nwallace wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 23:54Pass of Birnham to Tay Crossing is in reality a rather short section, heading north it already starts with a Dual Carriage way tailing in, and all route options are online unless someone manages to convince TS that a fairly long offline tunnel is a good idea...;DaStreetsweep wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 22:44 Forgive my ignorance but is part of the delay on the A9 due to not knowing the final route.
For example, what would be the point in dualling one particular section (say half way up) if they cant agree on either side of that which is the best particular route. (ie it may not marry up route wise).
Was more meaning if Killiecrankie was going to be a sticking point due to the battlefield, it may be difficult to build either side of it until a preferred route is decided.
Dual the A9, dual and bypass the A77, and bypass Crocketford and Springholm on the A75.
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The planned inquiry session for Dalraddy to Slochd has now been postponed due to current events so there is likely to be an extended delay to the progress of this scheme since one objector still wants a full inquiry session. Some of the grounds of this objection are a little concerning though if true (the bridge design not meeting current guidelines and the use of inaccurate flood risk modelling).
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If you shoot them, you can keep at least two metres between them and yourself. I am not sure however that do so would be totally legal.Truvelo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 18:52The article mentions security measures are in place. So if someone is spotted nicking some equipment is whoever is on patrol going to nab the thief or politely tell them from two metres away to put the stolen goods down?orudge wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:57 Construction work has been temporarily halted on the Luncarty to Birnam upgrade.
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This objection has now been withdrawn so the inquiry sessions have been cancelled with the remaining objections dealt with by written submissions. Highland Council have also withdrawn their objection now that there is agreement regarding non-motorised provision. A summary of modifications to the CPO is to be submitted by June 30 with the final schedule of modifications to follow by 14 August.A9Dan wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 16:22 The planned inquiry session for Dalraddy to Slochd has now been postponed due to current events so there is likely to be an extended delay to the progress of this scheme since one objector still wants a full inquiry session. Some of the grounds of this objection are a little concerning though if true (the bridge design not meeting current guidelines and the use of inaccurate flood risk modelling).
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Don’t a lot of these type of infrastructure projects have these scary looking ‘Dalek’ things on stilts at remote sites? They look like they may zap you!Truvelo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 18:52The article mentions security measures are in place. So if someone is spotted nicking some equipment is whoever is on patrol going to nab the thief or politely tell them from two metres away to put the stolen goods down?orudge wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:57 Construction work has been temporarily halted on the Luncarty to Birnam upgrade.
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Relevant notices (effectively the start of the PLI process) for Crubenmore to Kincraig have been issued today.