S-roads in France
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S-roads in France
While away in France I noticed roads signed with an S- prefix on some autoroute junctions.
I have searched around online but can't seem to find anything about what they are - I assume it is some sort of emergency diversion system like the shapes in the UK (due to the same colour to the diversion sign here) but they aren't signed as extensively as I would expect for this to be the case.
A couple (on an autoroute near Nancy) are here and here
I have tried to make a map of them from signs but it would be nice to know what they are (or even find an official map!)
I have searched around online but can't seem to find anything about what they are - I assume it is some sort of emergency diversion system like the shapes in the UK (due to the same colour to the diversion sign here) but they aren't signed as extensively as I would expect for this to be the case.
A couple (on an autoroute near Nancy) are here and here
I have tried to make a map of them from signs but it would be nice to know what they are (or even find an official map!)
Re: S-roads in France
They are diversion signs (DÉViation). The alphanumeric S52 etc indicates a specific route to follow.BenG wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 13:58 While away in France I noticed roads signed with an S- prefix on some autoroute junctions.
I have searched around online but can't seem to find anything about what they are - I assume it is some sort of emergency diversion system like the shapes in the UK (due to the same colour to the diversion sign here) but they aren't signed as extensively as I would expect for this to be the case.
A couple (on an autoroute near Nancy) are here and here
I have tried to make a map of them from signs but it would be nice to know what they are (or even find an official map!)
Used for long term roadworks. I spent 45 minutes chasing a signed deviation around Caen on a dark and stormy night which included getting flashed by speed camera but I never received a penalty notice - a Brexit bonus!
https://tinyurl.com/2p83ew5f page 21
Re: S-roads in France
Britain had an opt out on that, so no benefit.baroudeur wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 15:47They are diversion signs (DÉViation). The alphanumeric S52 etc indicates a specific route to follow.BenG wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 13:58 While away in France I noticed roads signed with an S- prefix on some autoroute junctions.
I have searched around online but can't seem to find anything about what they are - I assume it is some sort of emergency diversion system like the shapes in the UK (due to the same colour to the diversion sign here) but they aren't signed as extensively as I would expect for this to be the case.
A couple (on an autoroute near Nancy) are here and here
I have tried to make a map of them from signs but it would be nice to know what they are (or even find an official map!)
Used for long term roadworks. I spent 45 minutes chasing a signed deviation around Caen on a dark and stormy night which included getting flashed by speed camera but I never received a penalty notice - a Brexit bonus!
https://tinyurl.com/2p83ew5f page 21
Yup, permanent divertions if the main road is limited similar to the yellow plaques with the diamonds, circles, squares, and triangles on in the UK.
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Re: S-roads in France
I believe that the French authorities stopped providing the details of French drivers committing offences in the UK quite a long time ago, because the DVLA refused to reciprocate regarding UK drivers doing likewise in France. This was my understanding back in the days when I used to do a lot of continental driving, so it's nothing to do with Brexit.exiled wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 16:05Britain had an opt out on that, so no benefit.baroudeur wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 15:47They are diversion signs (DÉViation). The alphanumeric S52 etc indicates a specific route to follow.BenG wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 13:58 While away in France I noticed roads signed with an S- prefix on some autoroute junctions.
I have searched around online but can't seem to find anything about what they are - I assume it is some sort of emergency diversion system like the shapes in the UK (due to the same colour to the diversion sign here) but they aren't signed as extensively as I would expect for this to be the case.
A couple (on an autoroute near Nancy) are here and here
I have tried to make a map of them from signs but it would be nice to know what they are (or even find an official map!)
Used for long term roadworks. I spent 45 minutes chasing a signed deviation around Caen on a dark and stormy night which included getting flashed by speed camera but I never received a penalty notice - a Brexit bonus!
https://tinyurl.com/2p83ew5f page 21
Re: S-roads in France
That's why the Gendarmes will just pull you in and issue an on the spot instead!Owain wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 18:04I believe that the French authorities stopped providing the details of French drivers committing offences in the UK quite a long time ago, because the DVLA refused to reciprocate regarding UK drivers doing likewise in France. This was my understanding back in the days when I used to do a lot of continental driving, so it's nothing to do with Brexit.exiled wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 16:05Britain had an opt out on that, so no benefit.baroudeur wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 15:47
They are diversion signs (DÉViation). The alphanumeric S52 etc indicates a specific route to follow.
Used for long term roadworks. I spent 45 minutes chasing a signed deviation around Caen on a dark and stormy night which included getting flashed by speed camera but I never received a penalty notice - a Brexit bonus!
https://tinyurl.com/2p83ew5f page 21
As for the S numbers, they are major road diversion routes and not to be confused with Bis routes, which are the equivalent of our old HR network.
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Re: S-roads in France
Though in the IDF it is of course the CRS who patrol the roads. The 'S' stands, according to my Michelin Code de la Route, for 'Intinérrire de substitution' and is more specifically linked to the autoroute network when the network is peturbed.Bryn666 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 18:11That's why the Gendarmes will just pull you in and issue an on the spot instead!Owain wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 18:04I believe that the French authorities stopped providing the details of French drivers committing offences in the UK quite a long time ago, because the DVLA refused to reciprocate regarding UK drivers doing likewise in France. This was my understanding back in the days when I used to do a lot of continental driving, so it's nothing to do with Brexit.
As for the S numbers, they are major road diversion routes and not to be confused with Bis routes, which are the equivalent of our old HR network.
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Re: S-roads in France
DVLA were providing registered owner details under the Cross Border Agreement right up to Dec 2019. I have seen a French penalty notice (81 in an 80), sent by post, dated Sept 2019.Owain wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 18:04I believe that the French authorities stopped providing the details of French drivers committing offences in the UK quite a long time ago, because the DVLA refused to reciprocate regarding UK drivers doing likewise in France. This was my understanding back in the days when I used to do a lot of continental driving, so it's nothing to do with Brexit.exiled wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 16:05Britain had an opt out on that, so no benefit.baroudeur wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 15:47
They are diversion signs (DÉViation). The alphanumeric S52 etc indicates a specific route to follow.
Used for long term roadworks. I spent 45 minutes chasing a signed deviation around Caen on a dark and stormy night which included getting flashed by speed camera but I never received a penalty notice - a Brexit bonus!
https://tinyurl.com/2p83ew5f page 21
DVLA will supply registered owner details to anyone with reasonable cause so there is nothing to prevent a foreign entity doing so despite Brexit.
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Re: S-roads in France
The cynic in me says that DVLA will supply registered owner details to anybody who pays for them and has reasonable cause to require them. However DVLA do not enforce them, it will be up to the authorities in Caen to chase you up.baroudeur wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 16:18DVLA were providing registered owner details under the Cross Border Agreement right up to Dec 2019. I have seen a French penalty notice (81 in an 80), sent by post, dated Sept 2019.Owain wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 18:04I believe that the French authorities stopped providing the details of French drivers committing offences in the UK quite a long time ago, because the DVLA refused to reciprocate regarding UK drivers doing likewise in France. This was my understanding back in the days when I used to do a lot of continental driving, so it's nothing to do with Brexit.
DVLA will supply registered owner details to anyone with reasonable cause so there is nothing to prevent a foreign entity doing so despite Brexit.
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ANTAI the centre for motoring prosecutions for the whole of France is in Rennes. It seems certain that they no longer apply for UK registered owners info as I know of several who have tripped cameras but received no Avis de Contravention notice.Vierwielen wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 17:29The cynic in me says that DVLA will supply registered owner details to anybody who pays for them and has reasonable cause to require them. However DVLA do not enforce them, it will be up to the authorities in Caen to chase you up.baroudeur wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 16:18DVLA were providing registered owner details under the Cross Border Agreement right up to Dec 2019. I have seen a French penalty notice (81 in an 80), sent by post, dated Sept 2019.Owain wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 18:04
I believe that the French authorities stopped providing the details of French drivers committing offences in the UK quite a long time ago, because the DVLA refused to reciprocate regarding UK drivers doing likewise in France. This was my understanding back in the days when I used to do a lot of continental driving, so it's nothing to do with Brexit.
DVLA will supply registered owner details to anyone with reasonable cause so there is nothing to prevent a foreign entity doing so despite Brexit.