No entry -- and DEFINITELY no entry if you're more than 16.5 tonnes.
All it needs is an "except for access" to really stir the pot.
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No entry -- and DEFINITELY no entry if you're more than 16.5 tonnes.
I note that your image is from 2012... this one's from last month and whilst the junction is a little distant, lo and behold, the weight limit sign looks as though it's been replaced at some point! It looks larger and more vivid than previously at the very least.
No entry, but if you really have to, you can enter, unless you're more than 16.5 tonnes.
I reported the white sign to HE and they basically said 'we can't be bothered to replace it'Gareth Thomas wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 11:48 Here are a few I spotted on my trip to Tunbridge Wells last Saturday.
Sevenoaks and Tunbridge Wells are not secondary destinations!
Why is "High Weald" so small?
The A21 is primary here! Ugh!
Bad patching for "A228".
The A228 is fine here, but what's with the tiny (B2161)?
So many errors...
What about "no entry, and if you're over 16.5 tonnes don't bother going round to the other end because you can't go that way either"? That might be useful.WhiteBlueRed wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 05:15No entry, but if you really have to, you can enter, unless you're more than 16.5 tonnes.
That seems bizarre. A "pedestrian and cycle zone" that allows most motor vehicles 22 hours a day!tom66 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 28, 2022 19:00 This goes even further:
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5704653 ... 384!8i8192
The trouble with these restrictions is they are poorly signed and they are appearing all over London. That one appears to have an ANPR camera enforcing it as well, a nice little cash cow for people who are unfamiliar with the area.SteelCamel wrote: ↑Thu Jul 28, 2022 20:59That seems bizarre. A "pedestrian and cycle zone" that allows most motor vehicles 22 hours a day!tom66 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 28, 2022 19:00 This goes even further:
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5704653 ... 384!8i8192
I also notice that it fails to mention the weak bridge ahead. So even if your truck is under 16.5T, it's daytime and not school time, or you have the relevant permit, you still have to turn round when you reach the railway as there's a 7.5T limit. And you do have to turn round, as the road that would take you to the non-weak bridge is one way in the other direction.
Restrictions like these have been popping up all over the country during and since the rona. Usually called something under the guise of "School Streets". The idea is that it will encourage the school run to be carried out by alternative means such as walking, cycling or scooting which tackles congestion during school dropoff/pickup times. It also allows the spaces out side of schools to be safer and hopefully less children being ran over. In addition they bring in idiot tax money when enforced.SteelCamel wrote: ↑Thu Jul 28, 2022 20:59That seems bizarre. A "pedestrian and cycle zone" that allows most motor vehicles 22 hours a day!tom66 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 28, 2022 19:00 This goes even further:
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5704653 ... 384!8i8192
I also notice that it fails to mention the weak bridge ahead. So even if your truck is under 16.5T, it's daytime and not school time, or you have the relevant permit, you still have to turn round when you reach the railway as there's a 7.5T limit. And you do have to turn round, as the road that would take you to the non-weak bridge is one way in the other direction.
The ones in Edinburgh use flashing lights, which seems a bit less confusing. They are also sometimes staffed by volunteers from the schools or enforced with barriers but obviously given there are permit exemptions in residential areas it can get tricky. Really, as with your example, the ideal solution is to just physically close the road outside schools permanently where practical.jervi wrote: ↑Fri Jul 29, 2022 15:23Restrictions like these have been popping up all over the country during and since the rona. Usually called something under the guise of "School Streets". The idea is that it will encourage the school run to be carried out by alternative means such as walking, cycling or scooting which tackles congestion during school dropoff/pickup times. It also allows the spaces out side of schools to be safer and hopefully less children being ran over. In addition they bring in idiot tax money when enforced.SteelCamel wrote: ↑Thu Jul 28, 2022 20:59That seems bizarre. A "pedestrian and cycle zone" that allows most motor vehicles 22 hours a day!tom66 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 28, 2022 19:00 This goes even further:
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5704653 ... 384!8i8192
I also notice that it fails to mention the weak bridge ahead. So even if your truck is under 16.5T, it's daytime and not school time, or you have the relevant permit, you still have to turn round when you reach the railway as there's a 7.5T limit. And you do have to turn round, as the road that would take you to the non-weak bridge is one way in the other direction.
There has been a roll out of school streets in Brighton, and I believe the council is aiming at doing 4-6 per year until all schools that need it are done.
https://www.google.com/maps/@50.8263103 ... 384!8i8192
This one was rolled out during the Lockdown, and shortly after had the end of the road closed to motor traffic 24/7. Bit strange since the motor vehicle restriction sign is still present.
I’m not local to this, so I’m basing this reply on what I see on the Google.swissferry wrote: ↑Sun Jul 31, 2022 20:01 Does the no pedestrians sign include the newly created path? If so and the other pedestrian access is closed how do you get back to your car in the car park?
There is an advance sign here, too - After J32MotorwayGuy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 21, 2022 17:51It's common for weight and width restrictions to be signed in advance with blue signs, which is probably why that one is. The positioning is questionable, should be bigger and set back before the slip road really.tom66 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 21, 2022 16:45 Is this a bodge? The A14 is not a motorway, so the sign should not be blue, as it is depicting restrictions and not information.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.23111 ... 8192?hl=en
It should be grey, like this one:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.23538 ... 8192?hl=en
Or is it blue because it's adjacent to the M11 onslip, even if it refers to the A14 and there's no way to get onto the A14 once you've joined that slip?
Except there's one of those too (although badly faded):Big L wrote: ↑Sun Jul 31, 2022 20:12I’m not local to this, so I’m basing this reply on what I see on the Google.swissferry wrote: ↑Sun Jul 31, 2022 20:01 Does the no pedestrians sign include the newly created path? If so and the other pedestrian access is closed how do you get back to your car in the car park?
Sign says No pedestrian access to Argyll Street. This is the Argyll Street car park but there appears not to be any access (pedestrian or vehicle) to Argyll Street; there would appear to be a row of houses in the way. There could be a way through but I can’t see one.
It’s not a sign banning pedestrians (red circle with walking man); it’s advice to pedestrians not to waste an attempt at a short cut.
Yep. Croydon Council wants to get in on this particular cash cow. Here's one locally, with camera enforcement. The roads on either side of this off Portland Road are one-way from the other end, forcing you to go quite a bit out of the way to get to Albert Road. They had already blocked the roads leading there further towards South Norwood.MotorwayGuy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 28, 2022 22:04The trouble with these restrictions is they are poorly signed and they are appearing all over London. That one appears to have an ANPR camera enforcing it as well, a nice little cash cow for people who are unfamiliar with the area.SteelCamel wrote: ↑Thu Jul 28, 2022 20:59That seems bizarre. A "pedestrian and cycle zone" that allows most motor vehicles 22 hours a day!tom66 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 28, 2022 19:00 This goes even further:
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5704653 ... 384!8i8192
I also notice that it fails to mention the weak bridge ahead. So even if your truck is under 16.5T, it's daytime and not school time, or you have the relevant permit, you still have to turn round when you reach the railway as there's a 7.5T limit. And you do have to turn round, as the road that would take you to the non-weak bridge is one way in the other direction.
Thankfully there is a direction sign clearly indicating the restriction for right turners. No help for left turners but they might be expected to be able to read/handle the situation a bit more easily from their side of the road? Still, there's got to be a better way of doing this.MotorwayGuy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 28, 2022 22:04The trouble with these restrictions is they are poorly signed and they are appearing all over London. That one appears to have an ANPR camera enforcing it as well, a nice little cash cow for people who are unfamiliar with the area.SteelCamel wrote: ↑Thu Jul 28, 2022 20:59That seems bizarre. A "pedestrian and cycle zone" that allows most motor vehicles 22 hours a day!tom66 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 28, 2022 19:00 This goes even further:
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5704653 ... 384!8i8192
I also notice that it fails to mention the weak bridge ahead. So even if your truck is under 16.5T, it's daytime and not school time, or you have the relevant permit, you still have to turn round when you reach the railway as there's a 7.5T limit. And you do have to turn round, as the road that would take you to the non-weak bridge is one way in the other direction.