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Chris Bertram wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 07:46
MotorwayGuy wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 21:56 Why is this Chopsticks sign written in Transport?
Because it's in Leeds?
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Why is it too small?
Why is the motorway beyond the sign not fenced off from the park?
Why are all the other signs on the Inner Ring Road even less compliant than this?

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Is this a bodge? The A14 is not a motorway, so the sign should not be blue, as it is depicting restrictions and not information.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.23111 ... 8192?hl=en

It should be grey, like this one:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.23538 ... 8192?hl=en

Or is it blue because it's adjacent to the M11 onslip, even if it refers to the A14 and there's no way to get onto the A14 once you've joined that slip?
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tom66 wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 16:45 Is this a bodge? The A14 is not a motorway, so the sign should not be blue, as it is depicting restrictions and not information.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.23111 ... 8192?hl=en

It should be grey, like this one:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.23538 ... 8192?hl=en

Or is it blue because it's adjacent to the M11 onslip, even if it refers to the A14 and there's no way to get onto the A14 once you've joined that slip?
It's common for weight and width restrictions to be signed in advance with blue signs, which is probably why that one is. The positioning is questionable, should be bigger and set back before the slip road really.
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skiddaw05 wrote: Fri Jul 22, 2022 22:54 Just the one?
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This "SIGNAL TIMINGS CHANGED" sign has been up for at least 14 years.
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5774409 ... 384!8i8192
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Two parking signs, one 3/4 mile countdown and one 1/2 mile countdown, but there's definitely much less than 1/4 mile between the two. And if we're counting down in 1/4 mile increments (odd) then where's the 1/4 mile one?

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.93191 ... 384!8i8192
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Straight on! :lol: Inside a roundabout isn't a clever place to issue that instruction.:no:
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I know this is on a private car park, but that makes it more impressive that it appears to use correct symbols and typeface to create an incorrect sign, rather than just an entirely homemade mash-up.

Or is there now such a thing as a 2.5T limit for cars rather than lorries?
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TS wrote: Sun Jul 24, 2022 18:17 I know this is on a private car park, but that makes it more impressive that it appears to use correct symbols and typeface to create an incorrect sign, rather than just an entirely homemade mash-up.

Or is there now such a thing as a 2.5T limit for cars rather than lorries?
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Big L wrote: Sun Jul 24, 2022 18:19
TS wrote: Sun Jul 24, 2022 18:17 I know this is on a private car park, but that makes it more impressive that it appears to use correct symbols and typeface to create an incorrect sign, rather than just an entirely homemade mash-up.

Or is there now such a thing as a 2.5T limit for cars rather than lorries?
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Not quite sure where the 'diverted traffic' sign is sending people, given it appears to contradict the traffic lights. (Captured from my dashcam.)

https://imgur.com/a/XjeArvw
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tom66 wrote: Sun Jul 24, 2022 19:53 Not quite sure where the 'diverted traffic' sign is sending people, given it appears to contradict the traffic lights. (Captured from my dashcam.)

https://imgur.com/a/XjeArvw
:idea: I wonder if that diversion sign would be a valid defence against a prosecution for an illegal left turn?
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Spotted this on the Manky signs thread, the 50 is in the wrong font and A27 should probably be in Motorway. Also if we go back there was some dodgy speed limit countdown signs that have now been removed.
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MotorwayGuy wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 13:37 Spotted this on the Manky signs thread, the 50 is in the wrong font and A27 should probably be in Motorway. Also if we go back there was some dodgy speed limit countdown signs that have now been removed.
I'd be considerably more concerned about the state of what used to be the signs on the gantry preceding those signs:

https://www.google.com/maps/@50.8383751 ... 384!8i8192

The gantries prior to that are at least readable, if full of errors:

https://www.google.com/maps/@50.8353392 ... 384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@50.8333088 ... 384!8i8192
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I've seen quite a few of speed limit signs with what appears to be the wrong font - what gives? (Many of them with this same font.)

https://www.google.com/maps/@52.2194443 ... 384!8i8192
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the cheesecake man wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 13:37 :idea: I wonder if that diversion sign would be a valid defence against a prosecution for an illegal left turn?

Couldn't speak for the law, but the left turn here is just anti rat-running and to improve junction flow. There's a legal left turn one junction up the road. The road is two-way, and the lights are one phase at a time, so it wouldn't be a particular hazard to turn left, although the corner is fairly sharp and very much sub-optimal for anything with a long wheelbase to try turning on.

So maybe this is even a legal arrangement if the traffic signals are covered up (for cars/vans), but it certainly doesn't make any sense if they aren't.
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tom66 wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 15:09
the cheesecake man wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 13:37 :idea: I wonder if that diversion sign would be a valid defence against a prosecution for an illegal left turn?

Couldn't speak for the law, but the left turn here is just anti rat-running and to improve junction flow. There's a legal left turn one junction up the road. The road is two-way, and the lights are one phase at a time, so it wouldn't be a particular hazard to turn left, although the corner is fairly sharp and very much sub-optimal for anything with a long wheelbase to try turning on.

So maybe this is even a legal arrangement if the traffic signals are covered up (for cars/vans), but it certainly doesn't make any sense if they aren't.
I had a similar situation when I was cycling away from London on the A30, hit roadworks, and then encountered this:
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Now, there is a legal exemption from motorway traffic regulations for the purpose of complying with a road sign - but a diversion sign is just a direction sign, at the end of the day. Happily, it turned out that I'd just missed a TOTSO where all three arms are the A30, so didn't need to put that one to the test :shock:
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