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ScottB5411 wrote:There's also the northern section of the A19 in Belgium which has never been finished.
There are of course good reasons for that, i.e. that the extension of the A19 would cross the Pilckem Ridge, with all the historical and archaeological issues that would raise.

It's not as though they have run out of money or just couldn't be bothered.
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scragend wrote:
ScottB5411 wrote:There's also the northern section of the A19 in Belgium which has never been finished.
There are of course good reasons for that, i.e. that the extension of the A19 would cross the Pilckem Ridge, with all the historical and archaeological issues that would raise.

It's not as though they have run out of money or just couldn't be bothered.
I thought Belgium was in a right pickle financially........
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WW1 Battlefields got in the way with the A19.

And the A19 was to be the A9, and go from Brussels.
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The E19 between Antwerp and Brussels has to be one of the best,

http://maps.google.de/?ie=UTF8&ll=50.90 ... 4&t=k&z=16

http://maps.google.de/?ie=UTF8&ll=50.99 ... 2&t=k&z=17

http://maps.google.de/?ie=UTF8&ll=51.04 ... 4&t=k&z=16

Think the original plan was for 3+3+3+3 motorway.
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Located wrote:The E19 between Antwerp and Brussels has to be one of the best,

http://maps.google.de/?ie=UTF8&ll=50.90 ... 4&t=k&z=16

Think the original plan was for 3+3+3+3 motorway.
It's hard to see where that road is supposed to go after the junction?

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Derek wrote:
Located wrote:The E19 between Antwerp and Brussels has to be one of the best,

http://maps.google.de/?ie=UTF8&ll=50.90 ... 4&t=k&z=16

Think the original plan was for 3+3+3+3 motorway.
It's hard to see where that road is supposed to go after the junction?

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Brussels reminds me of London where all the motorways should have penetrated further into the city.
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Truvelo wrote:
Derek wrote:
Located wrote:The E19 between Antwerp and Brussels has to be one of the best,

http://maps.google.de/?ie=UTF8&ll=50.90 ... 4&t=k&z=16

Think the original plan was for 3+3+3+3 motorway.
It's hard to see where that road is supposed to go after the junction?

Derek
Brussels reminds me of London where all the motorways should have penetrated further into the city.

Berlin will probably too



http://maps.google.de/?ie=UTF8&ll=52.46 ... 1&t=k&z=18

http://maps.google.de/?ie=UTF8&ll=52.45 ... 2&t=k&z=17

http://maps.google.de/?ie=UTF8&ll=52.47 ... 4&t=k&z=16

http://maps.google.de/?ie=UTF8&ll=52.45 ... 4&t=k&z=16

http://maps.google.de/?ie=UTF8&ll=52.56 ... 2&t=k&z=17
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Rome likewise. I believe they are currently planning to extend two m/ways further in than they go at present.
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Actually, this one is "finished" in the sense that what was previously seen as a temporary terminus has now been tidied up, and the A562 extended to the road parallel to but west of the Friedrich-Ebert Allee/Godesberger Allee, which is Nahum Goldmann Allee.

The satellite photo is a bit out of date - click on the "Karte" link on the pic, and you will see the correct layout. Actually, some of the construction work is visible on the photo, which must be a good few years old.

The changes help to avoid jams on the Godesberger Allee by taking traffic destined for Deutsche Telekom's headquarters from the A562 under Godeserger Allee to Nahum Goldmann Allee, which is at the back of the DT HQ, which makes for an easier approach to the underground car park. The front of the DT complex is on Friedrich Ebert Allee.

I only know this because I used to work at the Telekom HQ and lived less than a mile away.

IIRC the original plan was for the A562 to carry on heading west to meet the A565.
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ScottB5411 wrote:
scragend wrote:
ScottB5411 wrote:There's also the northern section of the A19 in Belgium which has never been finished.
There are of course good reasons for that, i.e. that the extension of the A19 would cross the Pilckem Ridge, with all the historical and archaeological issues that would raise.

It's not as though they have run out of money or just couldn't be bothered.
I thought Belgium was in a right pickle financially........
Maybe it is now (although Flanders is much better off than Wallonia is), but the A19 was constructed years ago, and the reason it finishes at the N38 is not that they ran out of money then, but because of the other considerations.
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scragend wrote:
Maybe it is now (although Flanders is much better off than Wallonia is), but the A19 was constructed years ago, and the reason it finishes at the N38 is not that they ran out of money then, but because of the other considerations.
I thought they had made some new plans and had re-routed it slightly to avoid the fields in question, Beligian coach drivers i speak to all wish they'd complete it!
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ScottB5411 wrote: I thought they had made some new plans and had re-routed it slightly to avoid the fields in question, Beligian coach drivers i speak to all wish they'd complete it!
I remember there was talk about alternative routes but I don't know if anything concrete (or tarmac :wink: ) came of it.
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http://www.autobahn-online.de/karten/76_10.jpg

Found this on the internet, proposed Autobahns in the greater frankurt area. Looks like it dates from the 1970's.
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Coccodrillo wrote:The A13 in Luxembourg, due to the opposition from a local terrain owner: http://maps.google.ch/maps?f=q&source=s ... 9&t=h&z=16
Google show a loop (on the map overlay, not the satellite imagery) which I can't see the purpose of - to get to it you would have to be travelling the wrong way up the Eastbound on-slip (the current mainline), and it would send you back the way you came only on the correct carriageway.
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GrahamP wrote:Google show a loop (on the map overlay, not the satellite imagery) which I can't see the purpose of - to get to it you would have to be travelling the wrong way up the Eastbound on-slip (the current mainline), and it would send you back the way you came only on the correct carriageway.
I wouldn't give too much on what some Google cartographer have drawn there. Once the motorway gap is closed there will be a trumpet junction.
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A303Chris wrote:This is a classic unfinnished section of road also in Luxembourg, the A13 which runs adjacent to the French border. All built except for a 1km section where the slips roads to the roundabout are in place but the main line has been left. Really weird to drive. Up a slip road to a tiny off line roundabout to go back on the motorway straight away. Great queues at peak times

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That's a great one! Though again if you zoom in the map shows it as complete but unclassified.
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jackal wrote:That's a great one! Though again if you zoom in the map shows it as complete but unclassified.
It is not unclassified. It is simply not there.
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A303Chris wrote:This is a classic unfinnished section of road also in Luxembourg, the A13 which runs adjacent to the French border. All built except for a 1km section where the slips roads to the roundabout are in place but the main line has been left. Really weird to drive. Up a slip road to a tiny off line roundabout to go back on the motorway straight away. Great queues at peak times

Missing A13
Went through it last summer & it was well under construction, suspect it will be complete by summer 2016
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A303Chris wrote:
nick_dunn wrote:Back in 2006 I remember steaming at high speed down the A7 motorway section towards Luxembourg City from Diekirch. My satnav was suggesting the motorway was complete almost to the city suburbs so I wasn't paying close enough attention to the signs. Suddenly it dawned on me that a section of viaduct just down the road was completely missing leading to a rather hefty bit of braking!

Google maps still shows a gap on the A7 motorway section before it links to the A1. Seems like slow progress here - anyone know what's going on with it?
Due to open around now. I was in Larochette last August and came off the Luxembourg City bypass ,the A1 to the south, to find only 800 yards of A7 open. The rest is under construction to where your temporary ending south of Mersch was. The viaduct was completed last year but was not open. The delay is that the new road is in 6 km of tunnels under the hills and ground conditions have been worse than expected according to the locals I was talking to. The signs in August were saying the road would open in March 2011
We had lovely task of driving through Luxembourg City with caravan in tow last summer to get to our site at Ettelbruck on our way back from Germany cause this road was not open, apparently opened in September http://www.wort.lu/en/luxembourg/a7-mot ... 870807df48 & http://www.pch.public.lu/fr/galerie-mul ... index.html
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