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Steven wrote: Sat Feb 19, 2022 09:43 Another collection of 17 of the tall OS Quarter Inch Fourth Edition maps from 1945-46 been uploaded to SABRE Maps today, and are available via the SABRE Maps Sheetfinder.
Thanks Steven, great that a fair amount of the country is covered by the one year.

The wartime built bypasses are on apart from:

Rainford (not re-opened after War Department use until 1950)
Warboys - not on 1946 OS NPE 1 inch either
Oxton (northern part) - not on 1947 OS NPE 1 inch either
Billingham - not on 1947 OS NPE 1 inch either

Wonder if there was War Department use in 1946 on those too?

Church Stretton is incomplete at the southern end and is unclassified https://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/maps/ind ... 12&layer=4

Nicely shown on the 1947 One inch too https://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/maps/ind ... 3&layer=18
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Today we've gone back a bit further on the Quarter Inch annual revisions, with maps between 1935 and 1939 inclusive, so plenty to find from that time period:

These are the original Fourth Series maps, based upon the National Yard Grid rather than the more familiar National Grid; but otherwise very similar. This set is mostly around the southern half of England and Wales, though there is a Scottish sheet there as well.

They are:

1935
Sheet 9 (East Anglia) Revision 3035
Sheet 10 (England SW) Revision 5035
Sheet 11 (England South) Revision 6035

1936
Sheet 7 (South Wales) Revision 4036
Sheet 6 (Skye and Outer Hebrides) Revision 1536

1937
Sheet 8 (Midlands) Revision 50/37
Sheet 9 (East Anglia) Revision 60/37
Sheet 11 (England South) Revision 60/37

1938
Sheet 10 (England SW) Revision 10038

1939
Sheet 8 (Midlands) Revision 6039
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Keeping on the theme of turning the clock back further and further, we're now into the Quarter Inch Third Edition.

The Third Series is, quite frankly, a confusing mess. It's in two halves, the original sheets and the so-called "New Series". There's two different sets of sheetlines. However, the Third Edition New Series is also the first set of "standard" OS sheets to have road numbers printed on them, so it's important for us to have them. As a "bonus sheet", a Special Sheet from 1929, that of "South Central" has been added, even though it's actually a member of the older series without road numbers. It's still really useful to take a look at the road network of the area though!

So, there's a massive bunch of 21 maps just been uploaded to SABRE Maps from between 1929 and 1934 inclusive; and they're also all available on the SABRE Maps Sheetfinder.

They are:
1929
Special Sheet (South Central) Revision 4000/29
Sheet 2A (North Central) Revision 5200/29
Sheet 3 (England North East) Revision 6000/29
Sheet 7A (South Wales) Revision 6200/29
Sheet 10 (England South West) Revision 5000/29
Sheet 12A (England South East and London) Revision 8200/29

1930
Sheet 6A (North Midlands and Lincolnshire) Revision 7500/30
Sheet 9A (East Anglia) Revision 7500/30

1931
Sheet 10 (England South West) Revision 6000/31
Sheet 11 (England South) Revision 15750/31
Sheet 12A (England South East and London) Revision 9000/31

1932
Sheet 2 (Scotland South West) Revision 2000/32
Sheet 2 (England North West) Revision 500/32
Sheet 8A (The Midlands) Revision 6500/32
Sheet 9A (East Anglia) Revision 6000/32

1933
Sheet 6 (The Western Highlands) Revision 2000/33
Sheet 1 (The Border) Revision 2000/33
Sheet 3 (England North East) Revision 2000/33
Sheet 4A (North Wales and Manchester) Revision 2000/33

1934
Sheet 6A (North Midlands and Lincolnshire) Revision 1000/34
Sheet 10 (England South West) Revision 1000/34


As an additional, there's another Fourth Edition sheet also gone live, from the post-war period. It is:

1948
Sheet 4 (North Wales and Manchester) Revision 2025

Enjoy, and let us know what you find!
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Great work and thanks Steven.

I've looked at when the revisions might be for the 1929 maps. As probably expected, none of the 1929 roads in the wiki network changes https://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/wiki/ind ... es_-_1920s appear on the maps uploaded, but how far back in 1928 would they go?

South Wales map buyers were short changed... none of the 4 new roads opened in 1928 appear on the 1929 sheet. This includes A468 Nantgawr to Caerphily diversion, A4093 Llangeinor to Pant-yr-awel, B4295 Penclawdd to Llanrhidian final section and even the A4107 / A4061 Bwlch-y-Clawdd Roads which opened as far back as 3 February 1928 and by Wilfred Ashley, the Minister of Transport himself.

Needless to say the south-east fared better with all the 1928 built bypasses shown including both the A4 Colnbrook and Twyford bypasses, the latter looks to be a late map amendment. Also the A2 Bexleyheath bypass and A217 Sutton bypass. In the Midlands the first Daventry bypass is shown.

At least the north-west had the new roads shown as under construction so they would not be a complete surprise to the traveller. These were the Garstang and Bolton-le-Sands bypasses. Or even built... the A6119 Blackburn Northern bypass section from Yew Tree, Preston New Road to Accrington Road, Intack is shown as unclassified and that was opened on 18 October 1928, 4 days before the Garstang bypass.

So, a bit of hit and miss for Ordnance Survey.
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From the SABRE Wiki: Network changes - 1920s :
list of the changes to the road network in Great Britain from 1920 - 1929.  Includes road openings and renumberings.


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The following changes from the original 1922/23 classification appear on the 1928/29 edition of MoT Road Map sheet 38 covering the Southampton, Portsmouth and Salisbury areas:

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Finally I've been able to complete the work required to bring those Quarter Inch sheets that dropped out of copyright in 1972, and actually.... there's only one sheet that did that!

It's Sheet 15, South West England, and although two different revisions have dropped out of copyright, we only have one currently available - so it's Revision C/* from 1974 that's gone live, with a lovely snapshot of the A38 Cullompton Bypass with the under construction M5 on either side.

https://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/maps/ind ... 9&layer=38

So if anyone has Revision C and is prepared to scan it, then let me know!


(oh, and yes, there is a 1973 layer that's appeared, and yes, it's meant to be blank until next year...)
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At first glance I thought they had the M5 ending rather abruptly at J31 with nothing connecting to it! The A30 proposed route in particular is hard to spot.
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Leaferclove wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 23:25 At first glance I thought they had the M5 ending rather abruptly at J31 with nothing connecting to it! The A30 proposed route in particular is hard to spot.
Using the Map Fader utility makes it clearer.
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Ritchie333 wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 00:28 Using the Map Fader utility makes it clearer.
Is there any way of making the map fader view two different Sabre layers rather than having one as OSM.
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Truvelo wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 20:18
Ritchie333 wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 00:28 Using the Map Fader utility makes it clearer.
Is there any way of making the map fader view two different Sabre layers rather than having one as OSM.
It's theoretically possible, but it would make the user interface incredibly messy.

It also needs that old chestnut of developer time, something SABRE is desperately short of.
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Thanks to someone newly volunteering to help with georeferencing, and a large donation of maps from Liverpool University, there's a number of sheets from 1972 just gone live and are available via the Sheetfinder. This means that all sheets published in 1972 are now available on SABRE Maps.

The new sheets are:
* Sheet 1 (Orkney and Shetland) Revision A//
* Sheet 7 (Firth of Forth) Revision C/*
* Sheet 11 (N Midlands and Yorkshire) Revision C/*/*/*/*
* Sheet 15 (SW England) Revision C
* Sheet 17 (SE England) Revision C/*/*
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Steven wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 17:29 Thanks to someone newly volunteering to help with georeferencing, and a large donation of maps from Liverpool University, there's a number of sheets from 1972 just gone live and are available via the Sheetfinder. This means that all sheets published in 1972 are now available on SABRE Maps.
OS were a bit enthusiastic in depicting the amount of Halifax Relief Road under construction - https://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/maps/ind ... 3&layer=36
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Ross Spur wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 19:14 OS were a bit enthusiastic in depicting the amount of Halifax Relief Road under construction - https://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/maps/ind ... 3&layer=36
I do vaguely remember hearing about a proposed Hipperholme bypass at about that date but I know nothing about it, such as whether its proposed route resembled that shown.
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wrinkly wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 00:40
Ross Spur wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 19:14 OS were a bit enthusiastic in depicting the amount of Halifax Relief Road under construction - https://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/maps/ind ... 3&layer=36
I do vaguely remember hearing about a proposed Hipperholme bypass at about that date but I know nothing about it, such as whether its proposed route resembled that shown.
It did definitely exist as a Trunk Road project in the early 1970s, though I don't think it ever got out of the Preparation Pool.

It appears in the "Roads in England" series of White Papers with its first appearance seemingly in 1968-69 to its final one in the 1973-74 edition. I can't find it in the 1974-75 edition, so presumably it was cancelled some time in 1974.

As to the exact route of it, I don't know.
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I know nothing about the Hipperholme Bypass either and I've looked through the material I have for the area and it's not shown on any of the maps. I may be speculating here but maybe there was some big proposal for the A58 in the area at the time. Along with the Halifax Relief Road there was also dualling and a GSJ planned for King Cross. Maybe the whole lot from Sowerby Bridge to Chain Bar Roundabout would have been improved?
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Truvelo wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 15:54 I know nothing about the Hipperholme Bypass either and I've looked through the material I have for the area and it's not shown on any of the maps. I may be speculating here but maybe there was some big proposal for the A58 in the area at the time. Along with the Halifax Relief Road there was also dualling and a GSJ planned for King Cross. Maybe the whole lot from Sowerby Bridge to Chain Bar Roundabout would have been improved?
It was different authorities - Halifax CB to the west and the MoT/DoE/DTp to the east but they may have done some coordination of their plans. Certainly Halifax had very ambitious plans at the time the relief road was built - what we got was only part of the ultimate plan.

Many years later an at-grade, scaled-down version of the King Cross junction improvement happened.
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Steven wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 08:57 It did definitely exist as a Trunk Road project in the early 1970s, though I don't think it ever got out of the Preparation Pool.

It appears in the "Roads in England" series of White Papers with its first appearance seemingly in 1968-69 to its final one in the 1973-74 edition. I can't find it in the 1974-75 edition, so presumably it was cancelled some time in 1974.
This Hansard excerpt of 4 August 1976 mentions the bypass being withdrawn from the Preparation Pool:
https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/1 ... gProgramme
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After a few months of adding loads of maps at other scales, a number of missing mid-1960s Quarter Inch sheets have been added today:

1964
* Sheet 4 (Western Highlands) Revision A/

1965
* Sheet 6 (Firth of Clyde) Revision B

1966
* Sheet 17 (South East England) Revision B

1967
* Sheet 11 (North Midlands and Yorkshire) Revision C
* Sheet 16 (Southern England) Revision B/*
* Sheet 17 (South East England) Revision B/*
* Sheet 2 (Ireland - North East) 3rd Edition

As usual, they can either be found directly on the relevant layer or via the SABRE Maps Sheetfinder.
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Two more OSGB Quarter Inch sheets from the 1970s were added last night, which are two different revisions of Sheet 17 (South East England); the C revision from 1970, and the C/* revision from 1971. We already have the revisions from the years to either side, so there's lots of opportunities to compare.


The list of missing sheets that are out-of-copyright is now down to four sheets, so if people could check their personal collections and consider whether they are prepared to scan them or allow them to be scanned, that would be great.

The list can be found here - it's the sheets marked in red that we're missing.
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From the SABRE Wiki: SABRE Maps/Quarter Inch coverage project#Which Fifth Series maps are actually available.3F :

This SABRE Maps Coverage Project is to provide online coverage of various series of OS, OSI and OSNI maps at the Quarter Inch and 1:250,000 scales.

Within Ordnance Survey, Quarter Inch maps were generally considered to be motoring maps, and as such were the first "standard" series to include road numbers on them, starting in 1929 on the Third Edition (New Series) mapping. These were then replaced in the mid-1930s by the Fourth Edition, easily recognised by the very tall sheet

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Five new late Quarter Inch Fourth Edition sheets have been uploaded today, covering most of northern England and western Scotland:

1959
* Sheet 2 (England, North Central) Revision A//
* Sheet 3 (England, North East) Revision A//
* Sheet 6 (North Midlands and Lincolnshire) Revision C/
* Sheet 4 (Glasgow and the Middle West) Revision A///

1960
* Sheet 6 (Skye and the Outer Hebrides) Revision A/

One thing to bear in mind is that Sheet 6 is actually from 1960, but as there's a replacement Fifth Series sheets for the area that was also published in 1960, this one has been pushed into the previous year.
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There's another batch released this evening, all from 1952.

England and Wales
* Sheet 1 (The Border) Revision B
* Sheet 4 (North Wales and Manchester) Revision D
* Sheet 7 (South Wales) Revision C
* Sheet 9 (East Anglia) Revision C
* Sheet 10 (England, South) Revision 2039
* Sheet 11 (England, South) Revision E

Scotland
* Sheet 4 (Glasgow and the Middle West) Revision 2040
* Sheet 5 (The Eastern Highlands) Revision B
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