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Still under examination by the Planning Inspectorate until 18 Feb, then there are 3 months to submit a recommendation and 3 months for the minister to make a decision. Assuming a contractor has already been appointed they will then have to start mobilising. So I imagine there won't be much to see before late in the year.
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The minister has not managed to make a decision in the 3 month period for any recent scheme. M25/A3 Wisley was before him over a year ago but after multiple extensions there's still no decision. I doubt that the A428 will start this calendar year.
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jackal wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:27 The minister has not managed to make a decision in the 3 month period for any recent scheme. M25/A3 Wisley was before him over a year ago but after multiple extensions there's still no decision. I doubt that the A428 will start this calendar year.
From the A428 scheme website on 23 Nov 2021
https://nationalhighways.co.uk/our-work/a428-black-cat-to-caxton-gibbet/latest-news/next-round-of-hearings-for-a428-improvements-announced/ wrote:
The A428 scheme, which proposes a new 10-mile dual carriageway from the Black Cat Roundabout on the A1 through to Caxton Gibbet junction in addition to a number of new junctions and improvements, is currently going through its Development Consent Order (DCO) public examination process. This is a six-month process when a panel of experts from the Planning Inspectorate, known as the Examining Authority, scrutinises the DCO application.

The application remains on track for close of examination in February 2022.
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Thanks, looks like if it were to start construction in 2022 then it would most definitely be at the end of the year or possibly early 2023, also although this scheme is referred to as the A428 improvement the road is due to be numbered as the A421 once it's complete, it looks like it could be late 2025 before the road is open to traffic.
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Skanska are the appointed contractor
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roadphotos wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 18:53 Thanks, looks like if it were to start construction in 2022 then it would most definitely be at the end of the year or possibly early 2023, also although this scheme is referred to as the A428 improvement the road is due to be numbered as the A421 once it's complete, it looks like it could be late 2025 before the road is open to traffic.
The A428 was only ever going to be temporary number as the original (A45) made no sense after the renumbering of the rest of the road from Felixstowe to Girton as A14.
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KeithW wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 00:22
roadphotos wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 18:53 Thanks, looks like if it were to start construction in 2022 then it would most definitely be at the end of the year or possibly early 2023, also although this scheme is referred to as the A428 improvement the road is due to be numbered as the A421 once it's complete, it looks like it could be late 2025 before the road is open to traffic.
The A428 was only ever going to be temporary number as the original (A45) made no sense after the renumbering of the rest of the road from Felixstowe to Girton as A14.
Plus A45 was diverted to meet A14 at Thrapston and the road from Higham Ferrers to St Neots renumbered B645.
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Truvelo wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 13:45 Those last few photos shows what should have been done to the M3 at Twyford Down. The A505 would have looked a right miss with a massive open cutting like that.
Also the M40 at Aston Rowant (between J5 and J6), the sort of cutting which you could build in the early 70s, but wouldn't get away with a few years later
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Scratchwood wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 00:06
Truvelo wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 13:45 Those last few photos shows what should have been done to the M3 at Twyford Down. The A505 would have looked a right miss with a massive open cutting like that.
Also the M40 at Aston Rowant (between J5 and J6), the sort of cutting which you could build in the early 70s, but wouldn't get away with a few years later
But that one is ok because it featured in the opening titles of The Vicar of Dibley :laugh:

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Truvelo wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 13:45 Those last few photos shows what should have been done to the M3 at Twyford Down. The A505 would have looked a right miss with a massive open cutting like that.
One gain for locals from the Baldock bypass and tunnel is that there is now a footpath between Baldock and the village of Weston that didn't exist before the bypass was built. This formed part of one of my many walks in 2020.
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M4Simon wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 10:10
Scratchwood wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 00:06
Truvelo wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 13:45 Those last few photos shows what should have been done to the M3 at Twyford Down. The A505 would have looked a right miss with a massive open cutting like that.
Also the M40 at Aston Rowant (between J5 and J6), the sort of cutting which you could build in the early 70s, but wouldn't get away with a few years later
But that one is ok because it featured in the opening titles of The Vicar of Dibley :laugh:

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Pilgrim St Roundabout in Newcastle before the CME, taken 1967
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The same scene now with the CME
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trickstat wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 10:58
Truvelo wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 13:45 Those last few photos shows what should have been done to the M3 at Twyford Down. The A505 would have looked a right miss with a massive open cutting like that.
One gain for locals from the Baldock bypass and tunnel is that there is now a footpath between Baldock and the village of Weston that didn't exist before the bypass was built. This formed part of one of my many walks in 2020.
Well there was a walkable route along Hatch Lane from the old A505 London Road but it was not very pleasant, especially crossing the road at busy periods. The bigger gain was getting the traffic out of the town and off London Road which was usually either nose to tail or wildly exceeding the speed limit.

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KeithW wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 13:56
trickstat wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 10:58
Truvelo wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 13:45 Those last few photos shows what should have been done to the M3 at Twyford Down. The A505 would have looked a right miss with a massive open cutting like that.
One gain for locals from the Baldock bypass and tunnel is that there is now a footpath between Baldock and the village of Weston that didn't exist before the bypass was built. This formed part of one of my many walks in 2020.
Well there was a walkable route along Hatch Lane from the old A505 London Road but it was not very pleasant, especially crossing the road at busy periods. The bigger gain was getting the traffic out of the town and off London Road which was usually either nose to tail or wildly exceeding the speed limit.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.97702 ... 8192?hl=en
Baldock now hosts Balstock, the largest free music festival in Herts which has a main stage in the market area plus smaller stages in pubs so people can check out different acts in various places. That would have been a non-starter before the bypass as the traffic in the High Street and Hitchin Road would have been too much of a barrier to people moving around.
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Another Newcastle one, Denton Square, which was the trolleybus terminus until 1966 and then the bus terminus until 1989, when it was built over by the A69/A1 roundabout on the Newcastle western by pass. Can't find a decent photo of the Denton Roundabout, though.
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One of the best 'before & after' photo sites I've seen - well done. :D
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This picture shows the view from Shrub Hill (future A299) near Whitstable, Kent.
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The view from Shrub Hill (near Whitstable) after completion of the A299 Thanet Way By-Pass. A lorry can be seen on the A299 dual carriageway.
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The view from Shrub Hill (future A299) near Whitstable, Kent.
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The view from Shrub Hill (near Whitstable) after completion of the A299.
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