Three way stop at four way crossroads

[Klepsydra]

I don't think I have ever seen road markings in this format anywhere else.

They make sense on the ground, since visibility is restricted when approaching from any of the three legs marked with give-way signage, whereas the fourth leg has an excellent view of the other three.

Any comparable junctions known? (This is near Baldwins Gate, Staffs)
https://www.google.com/maps/@52.9585609 ... 312!8i6656

[Bryn666]

I don't think I have ever seen road markings in this format anywhere else.

They make sense on the ground, since visibility is restricted when approaching from any of the three legs marked with give-way signage, whereas the fourth leg has an excellent view of the other three.

Any comparable junctions known? (This is near Baldwins Gate, Staffs)
https://www.google.com/maps/@52.9585609 ... 312!8i6656

These layouts are not prescribed and shouldn't exist - the vegetation should have been removed to improve visibility; or if all else fails put up a stop sign on the worst approach and retain priority for the other route.

[TS]

There is a similar 2-way give way at a 3-arm junction here, hear Powerstock. It also looks as if it used to be a standard scenario, with the arriving road giving way. Like your example, it is probably visibility which has wanted attention.

It does rather look as if the side-road into the dirt track has priority!

[Chris Bertram]

Something kinda similar near Wombourne: https://goo.gl/maps/95tRzsF8BjvLCSjdA

Slightly different in that the one arm with no Give Way markings is one-way approaching the junction.

[jnty]

I've yet to try to exercise my apparent priority on a bike here

(Although as the scheme is overall working as designed, I'm not entirely sure I've ever actually encountered a car at the critical moment anyway.)

[the cheesecake man]

There were plenty of examples of unusual give way arrangements in this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=40304

[JoshBostock01]

Similar, but we have a two-way stop on a three way road in Dunfermline I'm pretty sure that the design bried was to build the most ridiculous and counterintuitive layout possible. Traffic coming up Whitefield Road towards the 'T' so to speak have priority over cars on the 'through' route. It probably exists due to bad visibilty but it just seems extremely disorientating, especially for someone new to the area. Just along the road, a very tight double junction exists

[AndrewGPaul]

I don't think I have ever seen road markings in this format anywhere else.

They make sense on the ground, since visibility is restricted when approaching from any of the three legs marked with give-way signage, whereas the fourth leg has an excellent view of the other three.

Any comparable junctions known? (This is near Baldwins Gate, Staffs)
https://www.google.com/maps/@52.9585609 ... 312!8i6656

These layouts are not prescribed and shouldn't exist - the vegetation should have been removed to improve visibility; or if all else fails put up a stop sign on the worst approach and retain priority for the other route.

They don’t exist. the markings shown in the link are 13 years old. Take a right down Madeley Road and turn round, and now the images are 8 months old showing Holly Bush Road as a through road and the other two giving way.

Edit - my mistake. The markings are technically still there but mostly worn away.

[AndrewGPaul]

Similar, but we have a two-way stop on a three way road in Dunfermline I'm pretty sure that the design bried was to build the most ridiculous and counterintuitive layout possible. Traffic coming up Whitefield Road towards the 'T' so to speak have priority over cars on the 'through' route. It probably exists due to bad visibilty

Or to allow traffic from the hospital to get out?

[MotorwayGuy]

All of the examples on this thread are horrific and shouldn't exist. The question is, if a serious accident occurs at any of these, would the local authority be held liable?

[Bryn666]

All of the examples on this thread are horrific and shouldn't exist. The question is, if a serious accident occurs at any of these, would the local authority be held liable?

Only to a degree, the Gorringe precedent would mean drivers still have to take a road as they find it but it would be a fascinating test case.

[JoshBostock01]

Similar, but we have a two-way stop on a three way road in Dunfermline I'm pretty sure that the design bried was to build the most ridiculous and counterintuitive layout possible. Traffic coming up Whitefield Road towards the 'T' so to speak have priority over cars on the 'through' route. It probably exists due to bad visibilty

Or to allow traffic from the hospital to get out?

I doubt it. Most traffic goes south towards Halbeath Road and there is a mini roundabout between the hospital and this junction. Besides, junction with Halbeath Road is a set of traffic lights. The road doesn't lead directly into the hospital.

[L.J.D]

Always found this layout to be crazy and ill thought out also has one of my pet hates a junction zebra crossing they are so unnerving to use.

[Richard_Fairhurst]

Minchinhampton, Gloucestershire: https://goo.gl/maps/sGU1mA2kPK4ZYid37

STOP approaching from north or south, GIVE WAY approaching from east, nothing from west. I think you could possibly argue that it's a normal two-way stop plus a GIVE WAY for a road narrowing.

[WhiteBlueRed]

I wonder who has priority when multiple vehicles going straight arrive at a priority junction, and they are both on the side roads. Here in Russia, priority to the right would've applied in that case.

Similar, but we have a two-way stop on a three way road in Dunfermline I'm pretty sure that the design bried was to build the most ridiculous and counterintuitive layout possible. Traffic coming up Whitefield Road towards the 'T' so to speak have priority over cars on the 'through' route. It probably exists due to bad visibilty but it just seems extremely disorientating, especially for someone new to the area. Just along the road, a very tight double junction exists

I like that here in Russia, we have this plate.
It solves everything.

I've yet to try to exercise my apparent priority on a bike here

(Although as the scheme is overall working as designed, I'm not entirely sure I've ever actually encountered a car at the critical moment anyway.)

Reminds me of the pointless stop signs you would find in America.
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[jnty]

I wonder who has priority when multiple vehicles going straight arrive at a priority junction, and they are both on the side roads. Here in Russia, priority to the right would've applied in that case.

Similar, but we have a two-way stop on a three way road in Dunfermline I'm pretty sure that the design bried was to build the most ridiculous and counterintuitive layout possible. Traffic coming up Whitefield Road towards the 'T' so to speak have priority over cars on the 'through' route. It probably exists due to bad visibilty but it just seems extremely disorientating, especially for someone new to the area. Just along the road, a very tight double junction exists

I like that here in Russia, we have this plate.
It solves everything.

Priority to the turning road is fairly normal in rural UK settings, but it's been painted in a totally bizarre way here. It's as if they felt they had to use up the entire road space and tried to get creative?

[WhiteBlueRed]

Perhaps, it's because in the UK there's no "priority to the left" rule, so at a T-junction with a turning priority, the other approach gets a give way sign as a reminder. This, however, often makes it more confusing.
Something even more confusing, are stop signs in the US with exemptions for right turning traffic, which are particularly common in Pennsylvania. Essentially it's a junction that functions like a multi-way stop between traffic going straight and turning left across the major road, and the side roads; left turners and right turners to the left of their approach have right of way.

[jnty]

Perhaps, it's because in the UK there's no "priority to the left" rule, so at a T-junction with a turning priority, the other approach gets a give way sign as a reminder. This, however, often makes it more confusing.

Here's an example from elsewhere in Fife:

Approach signage for priority approaches:

https://goo.gl/maps/zfxuR2EUh5JvWMXXA
https://goo.gl/maps/xvs6ZNjjxMJdL21K9

Non-priority approach:

https://goo.gl/maps/ADBzUNXFs9ceKHZV8

Doesn't seem too confusing to me.

[WhiteBlueRed]

That's my point, that some drivers are just too stupid, and if there's no give way line they assume they have priority, which is why sometimes a T-junction would have 2 give way lines.
It's a bit unusual for me to see double white lines extending all the way across a junction. I know that in the UK it's legal to turn right across them, but here it is not, there are either breaks in the solid line, or dotted short lines across a junction, if the left turn is not prohibited.

[DunsBus]

Spittal, Berwick-upon-Tweed. Viewed from the priority approach (Princes Street); the other three roads are Dock Road, Sandstell Road and Main Street.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/qQxUivJSJ2vbJvQw7