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Road signs

I'm going to guess that when those photos of signs you uploaded say "own work", I can take that in every possible sense of the phrase? Congratulations :) --Chris5156 01:50, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

That's right Mr Marshall - I wondered who would be the first to notice! I hope they look right to you :P --Bryn666 11:44, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Well, the grey backing boards look a bit oversized... ;-) steven 12:04, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
I didn't specify the length limit signs to have such a huge expanse of grey - I'm guessing that's the signshop doing that because of the lighting. The precarious post arrangement isn't my doing either :) Bryn666 12:11, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Route Lists

Do you want the bad news? The Route List's have to be on the main Blackburn page for all the categorisation to work correctly, if you remove it, Blackburn will drop out of all the related page sections of the various roads (and the upload forms). Jeni (talk) 12:48, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Question for you: Should List of Classified Routes in Blackburn really be List of Classified Routes in Blackburn with Darwen as all the C-class roads are dealt with by the local authority? I presume you've got the full list from the council? Steven 23:12, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Yes, I dare say so... whoops. I was rushing to get these pages done and didn't think too much into it! --Bryn, 23:19, 01/02/2010

Defunct Traffic Signs

Excellent work on the Defunct Traffic Signs page. I am currently working on adding some UK roadsigns to the Wikipedia project. You can see some of the uploads here: Category:Diagrams of road signs of the United Kingdom. I am intrested in adding some defunct signs, redrawing them in the SVG vector format first. However the current naming scheme uses the TSRGDNO and I am having trouble getting copies of the older legislation from You could help me out be either letting my know somewhere I could download copies of the legistlation, or by adding the TSRGDNO's to Defunct Traffic Signs page. Thanks. --Svgalbertian 23:00, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

I'll need to sit down with the old TSRGDs at work - they're not available online AFAIK. Bryn666 20:12, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Defunct Traffic Signs (deletion request)

Hi Bryn,

I notice that you've listed this page for deletion. If it needs rewriting, can it not be done in-place (or even blanking it and building it up again) rather than deleting it entirely and losing all the history? orudge 15:15, 16 April 2012 (BST)


It needs doing from scratch as a TSRGD history really, losing its history would not adversely impact the Wiki in terms of information. Bryn 20:36, 16 April 2012 (BST)

Traffic Signs and General Directions..


Wikisource now has a PARTIAL transcription of the 1981 regs, here [1] with one unfortunate drawback. The scanned copy provided by is greyscale (as is it's copy of the 1975 and 1994 regs.)

Whilst it is possible to make some educated guess about the colours, and x-heights based on a combination of the Traffic Signs Manual and the working drawings (pre 2011), it would be nice to eventually have color scans to patch into the PDF at Wikimedia Commons. Do you know of anyone that might have copies of the 1981 regs, or even more unlikely the 1981 or earlier working drawings?

Afarlie (talk) 22:50, 27 March 2017 (BST)

Hi there,

I have colour scanned copies of the 1964, 1975, and 1981 TSRGDs if they are useful. Only the 1964 one is fully out of Crown Copyright, but as it's legislation there's a grey area with reproduction of documents.

Bryn666 (talk) 22:58, 27 March 2017 (BST)

Given that both the 1975 and 1981 (greyscale) is on under nominal OGL3 terms, perhaps you'd be willing to talk to the National Archives about getting the diagrams pages patched, given that you have originals?

(the 1964 regulations are NOT currently on in any form)

Color scans of the 1964 regs would be of historical interest certainly. I assume you are familiar with how Wikimedia Commons works? (And if the 1964 documents are out of Crown Copyright) I don't see any particular issue with them being uploaded there (Provided it had obvious noted disclaimers about it being obsolete and deprecated practice etc.)

Road signs image quality

Well, continuing our conversation from the Twitters, I've joined and am ready to discuss in more detail what the plan here should be with signs. I guess the first question, do we want to do SVG (vector) copies or just higher resolution PNG formats to replace lower resolution JPEG files.

Something I noticed however is that it appears SABRE Wiki renders SVG files differently than WikiCommons/Wikipedia. I submitted a test sign, one I drew from a DfT authorization paper, as a test image. The sign sitting on the file page looks fine, as does the SVG link. But the PNG links and on pages, it renders at a very low resolution, which makes them look terrible. (I put it on my user page to test its appearance on page, I've left it there so you could to have a look as well).
(For comparison, here's a link to the sign submitted to Wikimedia Commons.)--Thenavigatorbr (talk) 01:39, 3 September 2018 (BST)

1964 Diagrams...

I've uploaded this as a test file.

File:Traffic Signs Regulations & General Directions 1964 p21.jpg

before I embark on uploading the rest en-masse

Concerns I have at present are related to the level of "white-level-balance" I've applied. Afarlie (talk) 11:52, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

This looks good to me - it's unfortunate the original document has such thin pages that the imagery 'bleeds' through but it looks OK. - Bryn.

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