Wiki:Project Bridges and Tunnels

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The Bridges and Tunnels is a task to create and maintain to a fairly high standard articles for all the notable bridges and tunnels in the UK and Ireland.

Tasks

There are many many bridges and tunnels out there with a long and interesting history, yet we only have articles for a relatively small number of them. The aim of this project is to improve our coverage!

Create new articles

If you are looking for inspiration on an article to start, there is a list of bridges at the bottom of this page, where we already have pictures but no article. When Jeni transfers pictures from Coppermine or Geograph she creates new galleries for bridges and the like, awaiting an article to go with them.

Improve existing articles

Many existing bridge and tunnel articles are stubs (rated 1 star) and need improvement. In many cases a quick google search will bring up lots of information on that bridge. Picture descriptions on Geograph can also contain invaluable information.

Categorisation

We need suggestions on how to better categorise the articles on Bridges and Tunnels, currently they are all lumped into a single Bridge or Tunnel category, which is becoming quite large. We categorise many other things by region, but even this may become overwhelmed over time for bridges.


Who's involved?

To add your name to this list, edit this page and add " * ~~~ " to the bottom of the list, this will be automatically substituted with your username.

  • Jeni (talk)
  • Rob (Doing what I can)
  • Ravenbluemoon Will expand the Humber area and Trent where I can.
  • Bob As mentioned elsewhere doing what I can.

Article template

Below is some code to copy and paste into a new article to get you started. Remember to add a category to the Navbox, such as "Crossings of the River Usk". If the article is about a tunnel, remember to change the Bridges category to Tunnels.

{{Crossing
 | type          = 
 | name          = {{subst:PAGENAME}}
 | image         = 
 | caption       = 
 | number        = 
 | toll          = 
 | built         = 
 | location      = 
 | lat           = 
 | lng           = 
 | rel1          =
}}

{{Video List}}   <!-- List of videos (if applicable) -->

{{Navbox|cat=}}

{{Rating|1}}     <!-- Article Rating, 1-5 stars. See [[Wiki:Article Rating]] for more details -->

<!--Categories: -->
[[Category:Bridges]]

Articles waiting to be created

The below articles have galleries, but no corresponding page.

  1. Castleford Bridge | Gallery:Castleford Bridge
  2. Hempsted Bridge | Gallery:Hempsted Bridge
  3. High Orchard Bridge | Gallery:High Orchard Bridge
  4. Maisemore Bridge | Gallery:Maisemore Bridge
  5. Queenhill Bridge | Gallery:Queenhill Bridge
  6. Bray Bridge | Gallery:Bray Bridge
  7. Conwy Suspension Bridge | Gallery:Conwy Suspension Bridge

The following bridges are on Rivers with Templates, but don't have pages:

Thames

  1. Shillingford Bridge - old A329
  2. Wallingford Bridge - old A415
  3. Marlow Bridge - old A404
  4. Elizabeth Bridge - A332
  5. Victoria Bridge - another bridge has the same name - B470
  6. Albert Bridge - another bridge downstream has the same name - B3021

Forth

  1. M9 Bridge
  2. A91 Bridge

Itchen

  1. Wharf Bridge
  2. Tun Bridge
  3. St Cross Bridge
  4. Norris's Bridge
  5. B3037 Bridge
  6. Itchen Ferry

Discussion

Please start any new discussions on this project below

Areas

Would it be an idea to have these crossings split up into the general catchment of each major river, instead of dealing with counties? That would categorise quite a few of them together. I'm thinking like what I did to the Humber category - do the same for the Thames and tributaries, Severn and tributaries, etc. Some crossings on more minor rivers won't fit into one of these though, admittedly.--Ravenbluemoon 00:20, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

I thought that was what was being done at the moment? Clearly there's a case for doing it by major rivers/bodies of water and their watersheds Sabristo simon 00:50, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
It's what we do for the purposes of navboxes, though there is no "official" categorisation beyond that. Maybe we could create articles on rivers, for the purposes of listing their crossings, similar to what we do with various towns and cities? For example River Severn would contain a brief introduction to give it some context, followed by sections for listing current crossings, past crossings and future crossings? Jeni (talk) 11:45, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

I have put together an idea at Scottish Rivers for discussion as much as anything. Ireland and Wales could probably be dealt with similarly, but England would need to be split (into Regions?). I'm not sure how much more information is worth adding, without duplicating from the bridge pages themselves, hence why I haven't created separate pages for each river. (I intend to take a trip up Strathspey in the near future as 'fieldwork') - Done, but cannot sensibly get across to Aberdeenshire (Strathdon / Dee) in a day.

Bridge Types

Whilst I don't know an awful lot about the construction of bridges, is it worth breaking the Bridges category down into 'Suspension/Cable', 'Arch', 'Truss' and 'Other' (etc?), with some information on the various types of bridge concerned and construction methods. I am happy to make a start on this, but not sure exactly how to categorise - can Suspension / Cable Stay and the like be covered as one, or should they be differentiated between as separate categories - you see I'm not 100% sure of the difference between them myself. I think that Suspension have curved chains with 'suspenders', while Cable Stay are straight cables??

The same could maybe be done with tunnels - bored/cut&cover etc. Any thoughts? Rileyrob 10:26, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Not a bad idea, could possibly be incorporated into the infobox if it isn't already?Ravenbluemoon 12:57, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
I've now finished filling up the recent changes list! I have categorised all of those bridges that I can by type, based either on personal knowledge, the text or photos provided. A few are almost certainly wrong, and some of my definitions may not be perfect either, but its a start. See Wiki:Bridges by Category to see those bridges still uncategorised (at bottom).
I'll set about writing the relevant overview pages later today (unless anyone else wants to do it!). Rileyrob 10:04, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

River Descriptions

I don't know if it'll be a little out of the SABRE remit, but I think it'd be nice to have a little description of each river in the listings - not much, just where it goes, what towns it passes through, tributaries, a few stats about the river. Some of the rivers could be a bit unfamiliar to some people perhaps? You could have a page for each, with the bridges listing at the bottom of each page. It would introduce each river quite well and make things look a bit more complete. Any thoughts on this? Ravenbluemoon 12:57, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

As I have finished the images of most roads I have started doing a progressive set of Bridges starting at Lands End. As this involves the input of rivers new to Sabre I have thought that a description of the actual plus the bridge would be helpful.bob 13:43, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
OK, at some point I'm going to trial something for the Trent - I think it will become useful as I've just been taking photos for some bridges over the Idle, Maun and Meden (tributaries of the Trent)- I don't think they're terribly familiar to some! Ravenbluemoon 18:49, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Here's an idea, that took me 20 minutes to knock up. Do we want stripmaps of the rivers like this? I know that the font is wrong, that it's not very well spaced etc, etc, but is it worth trying to do something like this for each river. Obviously, some like the Thames and Clyde will need two or three strips for the whole river. I picked the Spey because I didn't think it had that many bridges! Rileyrob 10:22, 15 May 2010 (UTC) (Image has been deleted Rileyrob (talk) 17:07, 30 April 2018 (BST))

I like the idea, perhaps rather than creating unique strip maps for every road, we can just create a selection of bridge images which we can knock together in a table to form a strip map, as well as linking to the articles and showing some basic information. I'm busy for a few days now (work, birthday, hangover, work), so unless you beat me to it (which you probably will :)) I'll take a look when I get a calm moment.
Are we going to go for pages on individual rivers, e.g. River Severn etc to contain this information? Jeni (talk) 11:40, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

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