Wath bypass : Manvers Way (A633 which becomes the A6023)

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Wath bypass : Manvers Way (A633 which becomes the A6023)

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Can anyone solve this mystery ?
I have been trying to find out when the Wath bypass (Manvers Way, the A633 which becomes the A6023) opened. I have trawled all over the internet with no joy (I thought everything was on the internet, but obviously not.....), I have also posed the question on two local forums for the area but with the same negative result.
I know it was opened after Feb 2000 (as I remember walking the ex railway line which is now the route of the bypass and it was not even being constructed then) but before Sept 2005 as there is a picture (here : https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/56424) of a bridge over the road.
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Re: Wath bypass : Manvers Way (A633 which becomes the A6023)

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Justin Smith wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 21:31 Can anyone solve this mystery ?
I have been trying to find out when the Wath bypass (Manvers Way, the A633 which becomes the A6023) opened. I have trawled all over the internet with no joy (I thought everything was on the internet, but obviously not.....), I have also posed the question on two local forums for the area but with the same negative result.
I know it was opened after Feb 2000 (as I remember walking the ex railway line which is now the route of the bypass and it was not even being constructed then) but before Sept 2005 as there is a picture (here : https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/56424) of a bridge over the road.
The wiki says 2002
https://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/wiki/ind ... es_-_2000s
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ForestChav wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 21:46 The wiki says 2002
https://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/wiki/ind ... es_-_2000s
That section was a bit to the east, although probably part of the overall road improvement scheme. I've not found anything, but perhaps the Manvers Road scheme was known under a different name.

It's showing on the 2001 A-Z Road Atlas. The 1997 AA Road Atlas shows the section from Pontefract Road to Station Road under construction. Some interim maps would help such as OS 1:50000 Sheet 111 Sheffield & Doncaster Edition C from 1999. Manvers Way shows on Edition C1 from 2002.
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It is a bit weird how so little information is available on Manvers Way. The Dearne Towns Link Road seemed to turn up before Manvers Way, but I'm also not sure when the Broomhill/Cathill section opened - It looks like it will have all opened at the same time as Manvers way but I'm not sure. Seems to be a lack of any photographic history.

The dual carriageway section (of the parkway) is well known, and the northern section up to Cudworth all opened quite a bit later, but the middle section and Manvers Way I've always struggled to find much on.
ForestChav wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 21:46
Justin Smith wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 21:31 Can anyone solve this mystery ?
I have been trying to find out when the Wath bypass (Manvers Way, the A633 which becomes the A6023) opened. I have trawled all over the internet with no joy (I thought everything was on the internet, but obviously not.....), I have also posed the question on two local forums for the area but with the same negative result.
I know it was opened after Feb 2000 (as I remember walking the ex railway line which is now the route of the bypass and it was not even being constructed then) but before Sept 2005 as there is a picture (here : https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/56424) of a bridge over the road.
The wiki says 2002
https://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/wiki/ind ... es_-_2000s
The Denaby diversion was a glorified level crossing replacement scheme (but with the level crossing staying in place :D) - Unconnected to the Manvers / Wath bypass section

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Ross Spur wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 09:06
ForestChav wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 21:46 The wiki says 2002
https://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/wiki/ind ... es_-_2000s
That section was a bit to the east, although probably part of the overall road improvement scheme. I've not found anything, but perhaps the Manvers Road scheme was known under a different name.

It's showing on the 2001 A-Z Road Atlas. The 1997 AA Road Atlas shows the section from Pontefract Road to Station Road under construction. Some interim maps would help such as OS 1:50000 Sheet 111 Sheffield & Doncaster Edition C from 1999. Manvers Way shows on Edition C1 from 2002.
Do you mean the Manvers Way with that ? If so I do not see how that can be right. As I mentioned earlier I walked the route in Feb 2000 and there was not even any road construction taking place.

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Hdeng16 wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:12 It is a bit weird how so little information is available on Manvers Way. The Dearne Towns Link Road seemed to turn up before Manvers Way, but I'm also not sure when the Broomhill/Cathill section opened - It looks like it will have all opened at the same time as Manvers way but I'm not sure. Seems to be a lack of any photographic history.

The dual carriageway section (of the parkway) is well known, and the northern section up to Cudworth all opened quite a bit later, but the middle section and Manvers Way I've always struggled to find much on.
ForestChav wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 21:46
Justin Smith wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 21:31 Can anyone solve this mystery ?
I have been trying to find out when the Wath bypass (Manvers Way, the A633 which becomes the A6023) opened. I have trawled all over the internet with no joy (I thought everything was on the internet, but obviously not.....), I have also posed the question on two local forums for the area but with the same negative result.
I know it was opened after Feb 2000 (as I remember walking the ex railway line which is now the route of the bypass and it was not even being constructed then) but before Sept 2005 as there is a picture (here : https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/56424) of a bridge over the road.
The wiki says 2002
https://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/wiki/ind ... es_-_2000s
The Denaby diversion was a glorified level crossing replacement scheme (but with the level crossing staying in place :D) - Unconnected to the Manvers / Wath bypass section
I agree !

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Justin Smith wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 22:22
Ross Spur wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 09:06
ForestChav wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 21:46 The wiki says 2002
https://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/wiki/ind ... es_-_2000s
That section was a bit to the east, although probably part of the overall road improvement scheme. I've not found anything, but perhaps the Manvers Road scheme was known under a different name.

It's showing on the 2001 A-Z Road Atlas. The 1997 AA Road Atlas shows the section from Pontefract Road to Station Road under construction. Some interim maps would help such as OS 1:50000 Sheet 111 Sheffield & Doncaster Edition C from 1999. Manvers Way shows on Edition C1 from 2002.
Do you mean the Manvers Way with that ? If so I do not see how that can be right. As I mentioned earlier I walked the route in Feb 2000 and there was not even any road construction taking place.
I've got both the 1996 and 1999 A-Z atlases.

1996 : no indication of A633 / A6023 Manvers Way. Not under construction.
1999 : Manvers Way complete (open), both the A633 and A6023 sections ie. from the A6195 to the B6098. For info, the 1999 edition also has the A6195 dual carriageway from M1 J36 to the A633, and the section from the A635 to Grimethorpe is showing as proposed, but neither of these sections is in the 1996 edition.
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owen b wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 22:45
Justin Smith wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 22:22
Ross Spur wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 09:06

That section was a bit to the east, although probably part of the overall road improvement scheme. I've not found anything, but perhaps the Manvers Road scheme was known under a different name.

It's showing on the 2001 A-Z Road Atlas. The 1997 AA Road Atlas shows the section from Pontefract Road to Station Road under construction. Some interim maps would help such as OS 1:50000 Sheet 111 Sheffield & Doncaster Edition C from 1999. Manvers Way shows on Edition C1 from 2002.
Do you mean the Manvers Way with that ? If so I do not see how that can be right. As I mentioned earlier I walked the route in Feb 2000 and there was not even any road construction taking place.
I've got both the 1996 and 1999 A-Z atlases.

1996 : no indication of A633 / A6023 Manvers Way. Not under construction.
1999 : Manvers Way complete (open), both the A633 and A6023 sections ie. from the A6195 to the B6098. For info, the 1999 edition also has the A6195 dual carriageway from M1 J36 to the A633, and the section from the A635 to Grimethorpe is showing as proposed, but neither of these sections is in the 1996 edition.
That's a bit odd, I could have sworn the road was not there when I did my walk in Feb 2000.
One's memory can play tricks on one but I looked back at the map I used for that walk. I draw on the walk in pencil and date it, and the route was exactly the same as the ex GCR rail route upon which much of the new road was built. Furthermore I have not written on the map that there was a road there at the time of the walk.
Very strange.
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