The Great C Road hunt!
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The Great C Road hunt!
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If you live in one of the areas covered (see below), we would appreciate it if you could review your local roads and add details to the pages. Some of the route descriptions are little more than 'The C1 starts at A and heads west to B.' and whilst this may be appropriate on occasion, it would be really good to expand a lot of the pages.
Council areas currently covered on the Wiki can be found on this page: Category:Other_Classified_Roads
Current progress for Scotland can be tracked here: Rileyrob/Scottish_C_Roads
As you can see from a brief browse, most of the Scottish council areas, and several of the English council areas have individual pages for each route which can be improved by wiki novices. For the English routes, many routes need pages to be created, but we are here to help you get started if you fancy tackling these.
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https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/53.90 ... authuser=0
The route is shown as a C Road on the OS map at http://maps.northyorks.gov.uk/connect/a ... pcfg=Roads
I suspect its unclassified as the B6451 runs parallel to it from RAF Menwith Hill on the A59 to Farnley
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Thanks for the pointer - will do some more when i have some time. Just wanted to get one in whilst i thought i would get feedbackrileyrob wrote:The text looks fine to me, I've added a couple of links in, and most importantly moved the text up the page. It needs to go in between the bits that say {{dab... And {{navbox... Please, otherwise brilliant, carry on!
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I'm conscious that the French like to label almost all roads with their number, down to C for communale, and I'm sure I've seen V for vicinale (even more local) in Brittany, but Germany tends to be sparing with its signing of numbers, with only A numbers for Autobahns and unprefixed numbers for Bundesstraßen being visible. I understand that other roads do have numbers, but they are for administrative use in the main.fras wrote:Any particular reason why we in Britain don't label them like they do in France and Germany ?
C roads in England and Wales, at least, are a local classification at the discretion of the council concerned, and not all councils choose to use them. Scotland, as ever, is different (and I have no idea about NI), but even there signing them is very rare.
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Another thought; I wonder what the longest classified unnumbered road in the country actually is?
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Do most people navigate using their satnavs? Do most people even have satnavs? I don't, and I can't think of anyone I know (present company excepted, of course) who does. Though I very probably mix in the wrong circles / am the wrong sort of driver!c2R wrote:I suspect that these days there would be very little benefit in signing them as most people navigate using their satnavs... There's perhaps no need for them to be unique - other countries, e.g. France don't bother...
Re unique numbers for third-level routes: this would be impossible in a territory the size of GB without enormously long numbers or complex alphanumeric combinations. Even in much smaller Ireland, each of the 31 local roads authorities has its own L-road series, each of which has numbers available in the range L1000 to L99999.
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I don't have one- but most of the people I know do - when I've occasionally borrowed/hired a car with one built in, I tend not to bother with it for navigation but find the traffic updates quite useful.Viator wrote:Do most people navigate using their satnavs? Do most people even have satnavs? I don't, and I can't think of anyone I know (present company excepted, of course) who does. Though I very probably mix in the wrong circles / am the wrong sort of driver!c2R wrote:I suspect that these days there would be very little benefit in signing them as most people navigate using their satnavs... There's perhaps no need for them to be unique - other countries, e.g. France don't bother...
I agree; there's perhaps a handful from each area that could be put forward for a coherent tertiary network of major routes, but if all Class III roads were included, the numbers would need to be very long indeed to be unique.Viator wrote: Re unique numbers for third-level routes: this would be impossible in a territory the size of GB without enormously long numbers or complex alphanumeric combinations. Even in much smaller Ireland, each of the 31 local roads authorities has its own L-road series, each of which has numbers available in the range L1000 to L99999.
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I think you're going to have a lot of difficulty defining what a "road" is here, with TOTSOs and the like. A couple of good examples I've found near here though which I think are unambiguous are the road leading from the A148 near the A149 junction east to the A1065 at Weasenham St Peter, which is 12.0 miles, and the Ten Mile Bank road from just north of Littleport to Denver, which I make 11.7. I'm sure there are going to be longer examples in Scotland.c2R wrote:I suspect that these days there would be very little benefit in signing them as most people navigate using their satnavs... There's perhaps no need for them to be unique - other countries, e.g. France don't bother...
Another thought; I wonder what the longest classified unnumbered road in the country actually is?
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I'd define it as the actual length of all classified sections of the C road with the unique number maintained by the same authority - clearly some are split over several sections with numerous spurs and TOTSOs.. I've just added up the C10 (Hertfordshire) for example and that's 28.18km (from the sum of my traces).crb11 wrote:I think you're going to have a lot of difficulty defining what a "road" is here, with TOTSOs and the like. A couple of good examples I've found near here though which I think are unambiguous are the road leading from the A148 near the A149 junction east to the A1065 at Weasenham St Peter, which is 12.0 miles, and the Ten Mile Bank road from just north of Littleport to Denver, which I make 11.7. I'm sure there are going to be longer examples in Scotland.c2R wrote:Another thought; I wonder what the longest classified unnumbered road in the country actually is?
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From the SABRE Wiki: C10 (Hertfordshire) :
The C10 is a long class III road in Hertfordshire (at just over 28km it is the longest class III road in Hertfordshire). It covers a significant distance across the county but is a bit of a mix of multiplexes, missing bits, and severances by more modern roads in the area. It has both rural and urban sections and features sections of single track, busy urban S2 with cars parked on either side of the road, and even a dead end!
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I've had a look at the Cambridgeshire list and failed to find anything particularly long (more than 10 miles), although some of the routes are hard to track down...
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It looks like a painful job to make use of that though to turn it into something more coherent... I've started with an entry for C102 (Northern Ireland) ...
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From the SABRE Wiki: C102 (Northern Ireland) :
The C102 is a rural road in County Antrim, Northern Ireland. It starts on the B147 and from there heads in a south west direction through The Dark Hedges - a tunnel of very old beech trees, which was used as a filming location in the television series Game of Thrones - until it ends at another crossroads, this time on the B15.
In order to preserve the natural environment of the trees, in 2017 a road traffic order was
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It does take time, though, it's taken me over a month to do all of Aberdeenshire, Including sorting the list out (in excel) and doing all of the traces, and I've still got D&G to go, which has nearly as many!
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I think that I was spoiled with Hertfordshire's system of having the individual sections already mapped!rileyrob wrote:It does take time, though, it's taken me over a month to do all of Aberdeenshire, Including sorting the list out (in excel) and doing all of the traces, and I've still got D&G to go, which has nearly as many!
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