Traffic Signs (Historical Reports)

[afarlie]

Thanks to some effort by others :-
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Report_o ... April_1963

and

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Report_o ... ffic_Signs


If other people here have PDF/DJVU of other relevant pre 1970 material that could be transcribed, feel free to mention it...

[Chris5156]

These are brilliant! What a huge amount of work to transcribe them and present them online - thank you.

[afarlie]

These are brilliant! What a huge amount of work to transcribe them and present them online - thank you.

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Traffic_ ... _Motorways

Wikisource also has in various stages of completion , the 1957, 1964, 1975, 1981, and possibly some later Traffic Signs Regulation. What it lacks in places is the graphical diagrams.

I'm sure that I've seen a not very well progressed Index and scan for Cary's New Itinerary ( An 18th book on routes in England)

I'm not sure if it's got pre 1970 technical manual on road building though (due to a lack of scans.)

[Conekicker]

Thanks to some effort by others :-
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Report_o ... April_1963

and

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Report_o ... ffic_Signs


If other people here have PDF/DJVU of other relevant pre 1970 material that could be transcribed, feel free to mention it...

I have a PDF that recreates three separate documents that pre-dates the original Traffic Signs Manual Chapter 8. PDF format, just over 3Mb. A Sabre member kindly sent me jpegs of the original pages a couple of years ago.

[afarlie]

Thanks to some effort by others :-
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Report_o ... April_1963

and

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Report_o ... ffic_Signs


If other people here have PDF/DJVU of other relevant pre 1970 material that could be transcribed, feel free to mention it...

I have a PDF that recreates three separate documents that pre-dates the original Traffic Signs Manual Chapter 8. PDF format, just over 3Mb. A Sabre member kindly sent me jpegs of the original pages a couple of years ago.

You haven't seen any scans of pre 1973 TSM's ? I was looking for them to support artwork generation to eventually put vectorised versions of the diagrams in the relevant transcriptions of the TSRGD on Wikisource (with the support of others.)

[Conekicker]

Thanks to some effort by others :-
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Report_o ... April_1963

and

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Report_o ... ffic_Signs


If other people here have PDF/DJVU of other relevant pre 1970 material that could be transcribed, feel free to mention it...

I have a PDF that recreates three separate documents that pre-dates the original Traffic Signs Manual Chapter 8. PDF format, just over 3Mb. A Sabre member kindly sent me jpegs of the original pages a couple of years ago.

You haven't seen any scans of pre 1973 TSM's ? I was looking for them to support artwork generation to eventually put vectorised versions of the diagrams in the relevant transcriptions of the TSRGD on Wikisource (with the support of others.)

I've got a scanned PDF of the '72 Chapter 8, 37Mb. Quite a few of the sign images are "less than desirable", the perils of pre-CAD days.

Someone must have a copy of the rest of that TSM somewhere.

The other 3 documents I mentioned would be useful as they fit in between the TSRGDs that existed either side of the '72 TSM coming out.

[afarlie]

I have a PDF that recreates three separate documents that pre-dates the original Traffic Signs Manual Chapter 8. PDF format, just over 3Mb. A Sabre member kindly sent me jpegs of the original pages a couple of years ago.

You haven't seen any scans of pre 1973 TSM's ? I was looking for them to support artwork generation to eventually put vectorised versions of the diagrams in the relevant transcriptions of the TSRGD on Wikisource (with the support of others.)

I've got a scanned PDF of the '72 Chapter 8, 37Mb. Quite a few of the sign images are "less than desirable", the perils of pre-CAD days.

Someone must have a copy of the rest of that TSM somewhere.

The other 3 documents I mentioned would be useful as they fit in between the TSRGDs that existed either side of the '72 TSM coming out.

The SABRE wiki would also be a 'useful' location for uploading the scan. However in order to transcribe at Wikisource, the document (assuming that it actually has a Crown Copyright dated 1972) should be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons.

[afarlie]

I have a PDF that recreates three separate documents that pre-dates the original Traffic Signs Manual Chapter 8. PDF format, just over 3Mb. A Sabre member kindly sent me jpegs of the original pages a couple of years ago.

You haven't seen any scans of pre 1973 TSM's ? I was looking for them to support artwork generation to eventually put vectorised versions of the diagrams in the relevant transcriptions of the TSRGD on Wikisource (with the support of others.)

I've got a scanned PDF of the '72 Chapter 8, 37Mb. Quite a few of the sign images are "less than desirable", the perils of pre-CAD days.

Someone must have a copy of the rest of that TSM somewhere.

The other 3 documents I mentioned would be useful as they fit in between the TSRGDs that existed either side of the '72 TSM coming out.

The other items that would be useful would be any pre 1973 ( current cutoff for Crown copyright works) Working drawings, but they are likely to be rare even in physical form, let alone a usable scan for digitisation.

[Conekicker]

You haven't seen any scans of pre 1973 TSM's ? I was looking for them to support artwork generation to eventually put vectorised versions of the diagrams in the relevant transcriptions of the TSRGD on Wikisource (with the support of others.)

I've got a scanned PDF of the '72 Chapter 8, 37Mb. Quite a few of the sign images are "less than desirable", the perils of pre-CAD days.

Someone must have a copy of the rest of that TSM somewhere.

The other 3 documents I mentioned would be useful as they fit in between the TSRGDs that existed either side of the '72 TSM coming out.

The other items that would be useful would be any pre 1973 ( current cutoff for Crown copyright works) Working drawings, but they are likely to be rare even in physical form, let alone a usable scan for digitisation.

If you can make a list of the early diagram numbers you want, you could always ask DfT Traffic Signs if they've still got them. They sent me a PDF of WM 564.5 (the old crossover triangle) some years back, which I've still got.

[Bryn666]

These are amazing transcriptions - it's a pity they're not on SABRE's wiki though.

[afarlie]

These are amazing transcriptions - it's a pity they're not on SABRE's wiki though.

They are not on SABRE's wiki it seems, because they use a specfic Mediawiki extension to produce the page by page transclusion.

License wise there's nothing to say they couldn't be put on SABRE's wiki as well, as far as I can tell.

The extension being https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Proofread_Page and some custom scripting at Wikisource to handle page numbers.

If someone wanted to set up the relevant extension on SABRE wiki then other works could be transcribed to SABRE as well

[Bryn666]

These are amazing transcriptions - it's a pity they're not on SABRE's wiki though.

They are not on SABRE's wiki it seems, because they use a specfic Mediawiki extension to produce the page by page transclusion.

License wise there's nothing to say they couldn't be put on SABRE's wiki as well, as far as I can tell.

The extension being https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Proofread_Page and some custom scripting at Wikisource to handle page numbers.

If someone wanted to set up the relevant extension on SABRE wiki then other works could be transcribed to SABRE as well

Probably well beyond my wiki-media competence I think but it would be good if we could.

The effort placed into digitisation of old documents is appreciated though regardless of where it is stored.

[Berk]

I note with regret not all the diagrams have been scanned in on each document. Hopefully this will come later.

[afarlie]

I note with regret not all the diagrams have been scanned in on each document. Hopefully this will come later.

Does someone have the 1944 road sign lettering diagrams in a form that could be added to Wikimedia Commons and the SABRE wiki? They seemed to be missing from the scans used for the Transcription? ~~~~