Another bridge strike

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Truvelo wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2024 19:37 One of our trailers was involved in a bridge strike yesterday. An agency driver tried to negotiate a 13' bridge even though the trailer is 4.2m tall. The damage seems confined to the roof so as long as the frame isn't twisted it should be repairable.
You quoted the height of the trailer in metres and the bridge clearance in feet. Was the bridge clearance quoted in both feet and metres? I know that when new signs are erected, they must have both.
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Vierwielen wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 18:13
Truvelo wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2024 19:37 One of our trailers was involved in a bridge strike yesterday. An agency driver tried to negotiate a 13' bridge even though the trailer is 4.2m tall. The damage seems confined to the roof so as long as the frame isn't twisted it should be repairable.
You quoted the height of the trailer in metres and the bridge clearance in feet. Was the bridge clearance quoted in both feet and metres? I know that when new signs are erected, they must have both.
The trailer struck this bridge which has three warning signs on each side. The height is shown in feet and metres. Although the trailers height is declared as 14' or 4.2m they are actually only 13'8", but even so they would have hit the bridge anyway.
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Truvelo wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 20:58
Vierwielen wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 18:13
Truvelo wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2024 19:37 One of our trailers was involved in a bridge strike yesterday. An agency driver tried to negotiate a 13' bridge even though the trailer is 4.2m tall. The damage seems confined to the roof so as long as the frame isn't twisted it should be repairable.
You quoted the height of the trailer in metres and the bridge clearance in feet. Was the bridge clearance quoted in both feet and metres? I know that when new signs are erected, they must have both.
The trailer struck this bridge which has three warning signs on each side. The height is shown in feet and metres. Although the trailers height is declared as 14' or 4.2m they are actually only 13'8", but even so they would have hit the bridge anyway.
Did the driver set his height indicator in the cab to the corect value?
Was the driver following satnav and if so, didit give warnings of low bridges?

Looking at the pictures of the bridges, I noticed a lot of rust which tended to hide the signs. Maybe the signs needed to have a yellow background.
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The DfT have vehemently denied that they have purposefully relaxed driving standards for HGVs because of Brexit, but seeing some of the absolutely scandalous HGV driving quality recently it rings somewhat hollow to say they have improved standards.

My grandfather would spin if he saw what truckers are like these days.
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Bryn666 wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 09:42 The DfT have vehemently denied that they have purposefully relaxed driving standards for HGVs because of Brexit, but seeing some of the absolutely scandalous HGV driving quality recently it rings somewhat hollow to say they have improved standards.

My grandfather would spin if he saw what truckers are like these days.
Speaking to a friend who does HGV deliveries for a major supermarket's contractor the issue isn't the DfT, but rather HMRC. Brexit had an impact on getting new EU drivers in, however IR35 taxation reforms pushed a lot of EU drivers to relocate, most of those being the experienced, hard working, easy to find other work drivers.
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rhyds wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:00
Bryn666 wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 09:42 The DfT have vehemently denied that they have purposefully relaxed driving standards for HGVs because of Brexit, but seeing some of the absolutely scandalous HGV driving quality recently it rings somewhat hollow to say they have improved standards.

My grandfather would spin if he saw what truckers are like these days.
Speaking to a friend who does HGV deliveries for a major supermarket's contractor the issue isn't the DfT, but rather HMRC. Brexit had an impact on getting new EU drivers in, however IR35 taxation reforms pushed a lot of EU drivers to relocate, most of those being the experienced, hard working, easy to find other work drivers.
That definitely won't have helped. Not that I am advocating for the return of a monolithic state bureaucracy but if only there was some organisation dealing with logistics and distribution that was not reliant on self-employed people who will up sticks very easily if provoked.
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Went to Ely yesterday. Didn't really look at "the" bridge, but went past it.
It looks as if there are traffic lights controlling the bridge, I don't know whether they're linked to a height detection system.
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Bryn666 wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:06
rhyds wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:00
Bryn666 wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 09:42 The DfT have vehemently denied that they have purposefully relaxed driving standards for HGVs because of Brexit, but seeing some of the absolutely scandalous HGV driving quality recently it rings somewhat hollow to say they have improved standards.

My grandfather would spin if he saw what truckers are like these days.
Speaking to a friend who does HGV deliveries for a major supermarket's contractor the issue isn't the DfT, but rather HMRC. Brexit had an impact on getting new EU drivers in, however IR35 taxation reforms pushed a lot of EU drivers to relocate, most of those being the experienced, hard working, easy to find other work drivers.
That definitely won't have helped. Not that I am advocating for the return of a monolithic state bureaucracy but if only there was some organisation dealing with logistics and distribution that was not reliant on self-employed people who will up sticks very easily if provoked.
Having self-employed drivers (or agencies that provide an vehicle through which contractors can work) allows companies to call on drivers when they are needed and not have then sitting idle during slack periods. The premium that such contractors earn compensates for the ups and downs of the market. IR35 is the result of HMRC trying to take more than their fair share of tacation.
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