A33 Winchester Bypass

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A33 Winchester Bypass

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Saw an Auto Shenanigans video on a section of road I have never heard of before but a successor road I frequently use.

There's quite a lot of pictures online but a few points.

These signs https://www.google.com/maps/@51.0597106 ... ?entry=ttu - were they pre 1994? I noticed them when I was last down this way. What is behind the green coverings?

Secondly, am I right in thinking between 1985 and 1994, the M3 was effectively an A1/A1(M) scenario with an A road, namely the A33, between two sections of M3, with the southern section from the southern end of Winchester to southampton, andthe northern end from Winnall/north winchester up to London/Sunbury?
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There is lots of information on our Wiki.
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A review of the old and new mapping also on this site will also inform you that the roundabout didn't exist before the M3 extension so dating the signs.
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I walked the old road last year, and there's almost nothing left of it and the connections to it other than a few road and railway over and under bridges. Signs wise, this may be the only one left pre-dating the M3 bypass: https://www.google.com/maps/@50.9366805 ... ?entry=ttu
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Bryn666 wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 04:28 There is lots of information on our Wiki.
Indeed, Winchester Bypass.
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From the SABRE Wiki: Winchester Bypass :

The A33 Winchester Bypass was a significant piece of road engineering in the pre motorway era. Opening on February 1st, 1940, it was one of the first fully dual carriageway bypasses in the country, although it was not fully grade separated, which proved to be its downfall. Today, most of the road has been obliterated, with only the very northern section still recognisable as its original form.

At its northern end, it started at the A33 / B3047 junction at King's Worthy,

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Compared the the modern layout:
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Winnnall was a temporary terminus at one point.
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Spitfire Bridge (former site of).
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Nathan_A_RF wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:00 I walked the old road last year, and there's almost nothing left of it and the connections to it other than a few road and railway over and under bridges. Signs wise, this may be the only one left pre-dating the M3 bypass: https://www.google.com/maps/@50.9366805 ... ?entry=ttu
Ah yes I know that one.

But did the M3 not exist in southampton after 1985 so potentially even older than that?
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https://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/wiki/ima ... n_A272.jpg

This is a good picture.

So would this have been Spitfire Link approaching Winnall, with the rest of the road returned to grassland?

Interesting to see Newbury as a primary destination
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The M3 from Popham to Bar End/Winchester opened in 1985. The M3 section from Compton, south of Winchester, to Basset/M27 didn't open until about 1992. The latter was achieved by widening the A33. As I remember the A33 south of Winchester before conversion to M3 was of better standard than the Winchester bypass (not difficult, I know!).
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qwertyK wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 14:44 https://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/wiki/ima ... n_A272.jpg

This is a good picture.

So would this have been Spitfire Link approaching Winnall, with the rest of the road returned to grassland?

That’s further west, it’s somewhere either just beyond or underneath the furthest west end of the St Catherine’s Park and Ride site now. The left turn at the chevrons is heading towards Bar End, and is the route signed for non-motorway traffic during the period when the M3 started at about the aforementioned “bridge over nothing”.
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This is where the A33 and A34 split when going northwards. I remeber this junction well. On a dark night, my wife was driving. Since we were going to Basingstoke (and beyond) rather than to Nwebury, she was in the right-hand lane. An impatient so-and-so was sittong on our tail, flashing his lights and my wife was using language that I dare not repeat :censored: on Sabre. AS we got to the point where the road split, the driver behind us put his foot down and overtook us on the left. The last we saw of him were his brake lights comng on jhalf-way to Newbury. :laugh: :mrgreen: :laugh:
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