Botched Roadsigns

[Bfivethousand]

More fixed than botched but patch could have been better.

Strictly speaking, this has now become a botched sign since the regulatory signing for the low bridge is sited a couple of hundred metres beyond the junction.

[MotorwayGuy]

Shouldn't these plates have "Except for" in addition to "Authorised vehicles"? There should probably be a "keep left" here as well.

[wallmeerkat]

Griggsgreen https://www.google.com/maps/@51.0777615 ... ?entry=ttu

Griggs Green https://www.google.com/maps/@51.0791742 ... ?entry=ttu

[Nathan_A_RF]

Shouldn't these plates have "Except for" in addition to "Authorised vehicles"? There should probably be a "keep left" here as well.

Not "Except for" but "and".

[Conekicker]

Shouldn't these plates have "Except for" in addition to "Authorised vehicles"? There should probably be a "keep left" here as well.

Not "Except for" but "and".

There's also no hard requirement to install a "Keep left", Diagram 610.

[Big L]

Is this* a botch or an “innovation”?

*The thin line on the left. It’s on the next two signs too.

[Chris5156]

Is this* a botch or an “innovation”?

*The thin line on the left. It’s on the next two signs too.

Assuming it’s trying to show the lane that bypasses the roundabout, it’s a botch, because there is a correct way to show one of those on a sign and this isn’t it!

[Glen]

Is this* a botch or an “innovation”?

*The thin line on the left. It’s on the next two signs too.

There's been a prescribed way of showing that since 1994, and that isn't it.
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/200 ... 113_en_189

[MotorwayGuy]

Is this* a botch or an “innovation”?

*The thin line on the left. It’s on the next two signs too.

Assuming it’s trying to show the lane that bypasses the roundabout, it’s a botch, because there is a correct way to show one of those on a sign and this isn’t it!

The original layout didn't have the slip lane, this was a bodge added on so they didn't have to replace the signs.
The original layout also had this strange camera, usually these were used for bus lane enforcement so I can only assume it was something to do with people ignoring the tunnel closure.

[wallmeerkat]

How far to Ayr?

https://www.google.com/maps/@55.1063615 ... ?entry=ttu

[swissferry]

Don't know why this sign says Cumbernauld is 9 miles away when its centre is only around 5 - unless distance is to its furthest extremity.

[Worcestershire Wolf]

There are signs showing the A489 at it's junctions with the A49 at Craven Arms as primary:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.45794 ... ?entry=ttu

And again at both it's junctions with the A488 at Lydham, the south junction shows it both as primary and non-primary:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.51244 ... ?entry=ttu

North of Lydham:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.51956 ... ?entry=ttu

As far as I am aware the stretch if A489 between Craven Arms and Newtown has never been primary?

[Komi san]

Odd chopstick at M6 Junction 15
https://maps.app.goo.gl/6re8nQYQyZfVYLoN8

[multiraider2]

Short link/service road from supplier between the A232 and the A2022. The usual favourite, but this time signs large and small to make darn sure you know you can reach the same destination by going either side. Oh hold on.

[jnty]

Short link/service road from supplier between the A232 and the A2022. The usual favourite, but this time signs large and small to make darn sure you know you can reach the same destination by going either side. Oh hold on.

It feels as though this sign is so often misused - and opportunities to use it correctly so rare - that its meaning may as well be relaxed to just 'pass either side'. It would actually fulfil a useful purpose in that role and probably be clearer than just not having a keep left sign - especially because islands are collided with enough that required keep left signs are often missing anyway.

[multiraider2]

Short link/service road from supplier between the A232 and the A2022. The usual favourite, but this time signs large and small to make darn sure you know you can reach the same destination by going either side. Oh hold on.

It feels as though this sign is so often. misused - and opportunities to use it correctly so rare - that its meaning may as well be relaxed to just 'pass either side'. It would actually fulfil a useful purpose in that role and probably be clearer than just not having a keep left sign - especially because islands are collided with enough that required keep left signs are often missing anyway.

Oh yes I agree, it's probably more useful to the public than the blank sign on the island that should be there. They do not bother that's it's true meaning is something else. Get the Z bend sign put back in the regs and come up with a design that acctually means what people think it does/an alternative to "pass either side to reach the same desitnation" (would be a very rare sign) and you can have today's crown.

[jnty]

Short link/service road from supplier between the A232 and the A2022. The usual favourite, but this time signs large and small to make darn sure you know you can reach the same destination by going either side. Oh hold on.

It feels as though this sign is so often. misused - and opportunities to use it correctly so rare - that its meaning may as well be relaxed to just 'pass either side'. It would actually fulfil a useful purpose in that role and probably be clearer than just not having a keep left sign - especially because islands are collided with enough that required keep left signs are often missing anyway.

Oh yes I agree, it's probably more useful to the public than the blank sign on the island that should be there. They do not bother that's it's true meaning is something else. Get the Z bend sign put back in the regs and come up with a design that acctually means what people think it does/an alternative to "pass either side to reach the same desitnation" (would be a very rare sign) and you can have today's crown.

How about this? https://maps.app.goo.gl/hznUZjdeSkqbj2bP9

[Chris5156]

come up with a design that acctually means what people think it does/an alternative to "pass either side to reach the same desitnation" (would be a very rare sign) and you can have today's crown.

How about this? https://maps.app.goo.gl/hznUZjdeSkqbj2bP9

Perfect. Just needs scaling down to fit on a bollard

[jnty]

It would maybe be interesting to have a thread on correct 'both sides' signs, and to figure out whether the correct ones are in the minority. I feel they almost certainly are. This is the only one I know that's even half correct, and I can't help but feel it's as likely to be so by accident as by design.

[Bryn666]

It would maybe be interesting to have a thread on correct 'both sides' signs, and to figure out whether the correct ones are in the minority. I feel they almost certainly are. This is the only one I know that's even half correct, and I can't help but feel it's as likely to be so by accident as by design.

They are super rare. Funnily enough I've just done a video on it, it's being released at 6pm.