Can anyone ID this lantern?

Bryn666 · Post by **Bryn666** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:14

Hi folks,

Anyone know what these lanterns (see photo attached) are? They look like a cross between an Alpha 1 and a Sol D'Or.

There are dozens of them on the road in question, mostly mounted to telegraph poles - this is one of three concrete column versions.

sotonsteve · Post by **sotonsteve** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 17:56

The incredibly rare Wardle Aureole!

True Yorkie · Post by **True Yorkie** » Sat Oct 10, 2009 01:32

Where are these?

traffic-light-man · Post by **traffic-light-man** » Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:01

Theres one of these in as-new condition on a Stainton concrete at the Halton BC depot in Ditton, just down the road from our new house. I'll try and get some photographs.

Bryn666 · Post by **Bryn666** » Sat Oct 10, 2009 13:36

They're on a road in the area I'm responsible for. For now I'd rather they remained in situ as they all work rather than incur lots of expense when collectors start requesting them...

worcsfan · Post by **worcsfan** » Sat Oct 10, 2009 13:37

Smaller versions used by the defunct-since-1967 Wenlock Borough Council: and until a few years ago to be seen all over the former borough: Much Wenlock to Broseley and into what is now south Telford- Ironbridge Gorge, Madeley and Dawley.

M56phil · Post by **M56phil** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 19:28

These used to be scattered in the hundreds/thousands all over Widnes/Ditton in the 1970s/1980s. I think they look really good.
I would say 99% have been sleaved into industria 2000s or metal poles.

Not good for light pollution though.

A couple exist in a council depot just off the A561/A562 Widnes roundabout.

I dont think they work now though, one of the bowls is white/cloudy.

I hope this helps.

Ta, M56PHIL

Mikeya · Post by **Mikeya** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 21:01

Rochdale - big Wardle users - moved to these in the 1970s - the eastern end of Oldham Rd for example.

B4133 · Post by **B4133** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 18:15

Bryn666 wrote:They're on a road in the area I'm responsible for. For now I'd rather they remained in situ as they all work rather than incur lots of expense when collectors start requesting them...

Bryn are these around the Ripponden area? As if they are there is quite a few. Anyway if these are going to get removed tell Warren to keep some aside for me, he knows who i am.

Bryn666 · Post by **Bryn666** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 20:25

They are near enough there yes, but I doubt they'll be coming down yet for a while. I'm not going to pester streetlighting about it though

Gram587 · Post by **Gram587** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 23:24

It's alright you collectors saying 'save us this' and 'save us that' I'd rather old lanterns were left in situ as long as possible so we can all enjoy them the way they were intended to be installed!

True Yorkie · Post by **True Yorkie** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 00:52

Actually that is how I feel as well, to be honest. Yes, I like getting old and unique lanterns into my own collection, but I'd rather be able to go round on my bike and see these lights still lighting the streets every night.

B4133 · Post by **B4133** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 01:55

TY and Gram587 id rather see them up in situ as well.

traffic-light-man · Post by **traffic-light-man** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:42

M56phil wrote:I would say 99% have been sleaved into industria 2000s or metal poles.

A couple exist in a council depot just off the A561/A562 Widnes roundabout.

I dont think they work now though, one of the bowls is white/cloudy.

As I mentioned earlier, there's only one left at the HHT depot, and I'm fairly sure it doesn't work. I shall pop over with the dog later on to confirm

I don't think all to many were sleved with Industria lanterns, I think they would've been replaced by octagonal steel columns with some form of large SOX lantern in typical Cheshire CC way.

And then again, in turn, most of those being replaced with post-top WRTL Arc or Vectra.

wallasey · Post by **wallasey** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 14:38

Mikeya wrote:Rochdale - big Wardle users - moved to these in the 1970s - the eastern end of Oldham Rd for example.

I remember them being replaced..but over on the A58 to Heywood. Really good looking ones.

May I post this and ask for any volunteers to ID the lantern? I have asked someone already but I thought SABRE may appreciate this being shared. I don't plan to upload this to NWSL as it would give away the location.

Needless to say, there can't be many of these around.

autosignguy · Post by **autosignguy** » Wed Apr 21, 2010 18:09

I saw that one in Netherley, by Wood Lane, near a power station.

autosignguy · Post by **autosignguy** » Wed Apr 21, 2010 18:10

traffic-light-man wrote:
M56phil wrote:I would say 99% have been sleaved into industria 2000s or metal poles.

A couple exist in a council depot just off the A561/A562 Widnes roundabout.

I dont think they work now though, one of the bowls is white/cloudy.
As I mentioned earlier, there's only one left at the HHT depot, and I'm fairly sure it doesn't work. I shall pop over with the dog later on to confirm

I don't think all to many were sleved with Industria lanterns, I think they would've been replaced by octagonal steel columns with some form of large SOX lantern in typical Cheshire CC way.

And then again, in turn, most of those being replaced with post-top WRTL Arc or Vectra.

What were the octagonal steel columns? any pics?

traffic-light-man · Post by **traffic-light-man** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 00:29

I realise that I didn't post back to this thread when I said I would, however I can confirm that it doesn't work. Or at least, it doesn't appear to! May just need a new lamp.

The octagonal steel columns are just the bog standard Cheshire CC columns. I think they may be Stainton, but I can't be certain. They're older than '98 either way, but are everywhere.

wallasey · Post by **wallasey** » Sun Apr 25, 2010 17:27

autosignguy wrote:I saw that one in Netherley, by Wood Lane, near a power station.

If your referring to the image above, It was stumbled across more over toward the hills of Lancashire. I was just amazed to see it still in situ and potentially in working order. I hate to blow trumpets as it were but does anyone have a suggestion as to what the lantern may be? Claire P' has a similar lantern listed under her Unidentfied Lanterns Page

traffic-light-man: If they were installed by Cheshire then it will be a toss up between Stainton or Petitjean. However, if there is a seamless transition from the column to the bracket (ie no visible change like there is with the aforementioned manufacturers) then the column is likely to be by Poles Ltd.

Patrick Harper · Post by **Patrick Harper** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 20:26

It's alright you collectors saying 'save us this' and 'save us that' I'd rather old lanterns were left in situ as long as possible so we can all enjoy them the way they were intended to be installed!

There are a few problems with collecting streetlights.

Why would you want them? They are incredibly hard to get hold of (particularly the one shown in this thread), and it is even worse getting the control gear and hooking it up to the mains. No one in the area will be interested that you have a non-functioning streetlight in/on your spare room/cupboard/garden/driveway.

Mind you, if my parents were so unenthusiastic about driving and roads, I would bid to get one if it was under £30.

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