Botched Traffic Signals

[tom66]

Edit: see if you can notice anything else wrong in the image. For a post about walking and cycling, there's one pretty glaring error.

Cycling on the wrong side of the cycle carriageway? It's amusing that the car is on the left hand side correctly but the bike is not - one wonders what the artist was thinking of?

[jnty]

It's interesting that the DfT media team get the basics wrong: https://twitter.com/transportgovuk/stat ... JuZBg&s=19

These nearside ped signals are facing into the road! Perhaps it's DfT policy for pedestrians to wait in the road for the lights to change, or perhaps for pedestrians to moon walk across puffin crossings.

Edit: see if you can notice anything else wrong in the image. For a post about walking and cycling, there's one pretty glaring error.

Oops! Wonder if it was heavily inspired by a foreign graphic.

[MotorwayGuy]

There is a stop line here but no signals, as well as zig zags inside a junction.

[traffic-light-man]

Oh no

[L.J.D]

Why these were changed to green balls is a mystery surely having a green ball beside a red signal is a botch? That whole installation looks pointless anyway with every road it leads to been dead ends. A roundabout would of been better. Perhaps there were bigger plans to connect it to Bean Leach Road ? Hence the signals.

[tom66]

Why these were changed to green balls is a mystery surely having a green ball beside a red signal is a botch? That whole installation looks pointless anyway with every road it leads to been dead ends. A roundabout would of been better. Perhaps there were bigger plans to connect it to Bean Leach Road ? Hence the signals.

Similar setup here
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.78316 ... 384!8i8192

(but merging instead of diverging)

I wonder why they didn't go for arrows, perhaps it's because there is no legal ambiguity. There are arrows on the other side, at a junction which has a left turn.

[MotorwayGuy]

Why these were changed to green balls is a mystery surely having a green ball beside a red signal is a botch? That whole installation looks pointless anyway with every road it leads to been dead ends. A roundabout would of been better. Perhaps there were bigger plans to connect it to Bean Leach Road ? Hence the signals.

That's a typical junction designed a part of a private project that is overly-complicated and badly designed. Maybe they used up the arrow aspects here instead!

[traffic-light-man]

Why these were changed to green balls is a mystery surely having a green ball beside a red signal is a botch? That whole installation looks pointless anyway with every road it leads to been dead ends. A roundabout would of been better. Perhaps there were bigger plans to connect it to Bean Leach Road ? Hence the signals.

I can almost guarantee it's to do with the left turn give way and someone arguing the green arrows show priority.

I can think of plenty of full greens on left turns for just that reason.

[Chris Bertram]

This is where flashing amber arrows would come in handy, isn't it?

[MotorwayGuy]

Oh dear.

[graeme_t]

Why these were changed to green balls is a mystery surely having a green ball beside a red signal is a botch? That whole installation looks pointless anyway with every road it leads to been dead ends. A roundabout would of been better. Perhaps there were bigger plans to connect it to Bean Leach Road ? Hence the signals.

I can almost guarantee it's to do with the left turn give way and someone arguing the green arrows show priority.

I can think of plenty of full greens on left turns for just that reason.

It's on the line of the link between the SEMMMS route east of Stockport (down to the A555/MAELR) and the A6 at Stepping Hill. Now, planning on that section of road appears not to have gone much further than a line on a map: http://www.semmms.info/semmms/strategy/a6-to-m60-link/. Depending on the timeline, this improvement could have been futureproofed for that.

[Big L]

These in Wolverhampton have a near-side green ball but far-side straight-on and right-turn arrows, apparently preventing a right turn if you’ve passed the near-side signal until the right-turn arrow lights up.

[WhiteBlueRed]

Oh dear.

The UK really lacks a "left or right turn only" sign. Or a "no straight ahead" sign.

[L.J.D]

Oh dear.

The old installation previous was odd also it had no stop line and a single head here for that arm.

[ReissOmari]

These in Wolverhampton have a near-side green ball but far-side straight-on and right-turn arrows, apparently preventing a right turn if you’ve passed the near-side signal until the right-turn arrow lights up.

This reminded me of the new installation in Walsall, where the primary head is a full green ball, but the secondary is n ahead arrow, this is because you can turn left in-between the signals, but I just think this junction could have been modelled a bit better.

https://goo.gl/maps/ZoJbZpg7VYhB8X9E8

[L.J.D]

Saw this oddity today. I wonder why the left turn signals have a left turn filter arrow ? Why not just a simple RAGa ?

[Nathan_A_RF]

Been reminded of this today
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.25501 ... 384!8i8192

[vlad]

Been reminded of this today
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.25501 ... 384!8i8192

What does "Right turn goes first" mean?

[Nathan_A_RF]

The right turn lane gets a green light first before the ahead+left lane, though why this should be the case I'm not sure

[L.J.D]

The right turn lane gets a green light first before the ahead+left lane, though why this should be the case I'm not sure

From what I've seen it seems to be a common setup in that part of the country because Brighton has a few installations with signs on the signals saying the same words. Here is one and the Mellors before had the same. It's not something I've seen anywhere else.