I was changing channels just before 9pm this evening to find what was on TV and caught the last few minutes of a report on GBNews. Illustrated with a pre-1974 county map of the UK. Made me wonder if their researchers were particularly thick, or if they were making a point.
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Or alternatively, it was actually a map of the historic counties.jgharston wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 22:13I was changing channels just before 9pm this evening to find what was on TV and caught the last few minutes of a report on GBNews. Illustrated with a pre-1974 county map of the UK. Made me wonder if their researchers were particularly thick, or if they were making a point.
There is no such thing as a "pre-1974 county map", as anyone with any knowledge of the geography of Great Britain should know. Either it's a map of the historic counties that continue to exist, or it's a particular snapshot of administrative counties (and their associated county boroughs) from a particular period. A map showing the administrative counties from 1973 looks different to one from 1966, which again looks different to one from 1964 for example.
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Well, it did puzzle me, because there was Huntingdonshire (1888-1965), but not East and West Sussex (1888-1974), and no Soke of Peterborough (1888-1965), so I couldn't quite work out, from the 30 seconds or so I saw, exactly what it was mapping. Checking the schedule, it was the last few minutes of "Grooming Gangs: Britain's Shame".Steven wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 23:29 Or alternatively, it was actually a map of the historic counties.
There is no such thing as a "pre-1974 county map", as anyone with any knowledge of the geography of Great Britain should know. Either it's a map of the historic counties that continue to exist, or it's a particular snapshot of administrative counties (and their associated county boroughs) from a particular period. A map showing the administrative counties from 1973 looks different to one from 1966, which again looks different to one from 1964 for example.
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The Soke of Peterborough was a county borough within Northants historic county until 1965 when it was merged with Huntingdonshire - no different to all the other county boroughs which weren't generally shown separately on county maps.jgharston wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 01:29Well, it did puzzle me, because there was Huntingdonshire (1888-1965), but not East and West Sussex (1888-1974), and no Soke of Peterborough (1888-1965), so I couldn't quite work out, from the 30 seconds or so I saw, exactly what it was mapping. Checking the schedule, it was the last few minutes of "Grooming Gangs: Britain's Shame".Steven wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 23:29 Or alternatively, it was actually a map of the historic counties.
There is no such thing as a "pre-1974 county map", as anyone with any knowledge of the geography of Great Britain should know. Either it's a map of the historic counties that continue to exist, or it's a particular snapshot of administrative counties (and their associated county boroughs) from a particular period. A map showing the administrative counties from 1973 looks different to one from 1966, which again looks different to one from 1964 for example.
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Wiki says that an amendment to the 1888 Counties Act made it a county of itself, not part of Northants. It was later merged with Huntingdonshire, which it wouldn't have been if it was already part of Northamptonshire.Ruperts Trooper wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 07:49 The Soke of Peterborough was a county borough within Northants historic county until 1965 when it was merged with Huntingdonshire - no different to all the other county boroughs which weren't generally shown separately on county maps.
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Unfortunately, there are three errors in this statement.jgharston wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 02:39Wiki says that an amendment to the 1888 Counties Act made it a county of itself, not part of Northants. It was later merged with Huntingdonshire, which it wouldn't have been if it was already part of Northamptonshire.Ruperts Trooper wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 07:49 The Soke of Peterborough was a county borough within Northants historic county until 1965 when it was merged with Huntingdonshire - no different to all the other county boroughs which weren't generally shown separately on county maps.
It is the 1888 Local Government Act, not "Counties Act", an important difference. If anyone takes the time to read said Act, it can be seen that it did not touch the counties in any way, just set up a number of brand new local government units called Administrative Counties (and County Boroughs)- and these Administrative Counties were mostly (but by no means exclusively) based on the historic counties.
Areas did move between associated Adminstrative Counties - for example, Dudley CB was moved from being associated with Worcestershire CC to being associated with Staffordshire CC in 1966, though Dudley itself was (and still is) part of the historic county of Worcestershire.
And finally, "merged with Huntingdonshire" is also incorrect - both Huntingdonshire and Peterborough Councils were abolished, and replaced with a brand new single top-tier authority. This is in exactly the same way as this sort of major change has always been done - for example, in about six weeks' time, Cumbria Council will be abolished completely and replaced with two new authorities, both of which are Administrative Counties in their own right (though with no county councils IIRC).
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Opening question last night:
What shape are all of these: warning signs on British roads BUZZ!...
In the weekly difficulties with UK geography they failed to identify Saltaire as the world heritage site indicated on the map* or to guess which city is on the River Sheaf @
* OK that's unfair: the guess was Skipton Castle, they then got New Lanark and Bournville in the bonuses after being told they were all model villages and were almost right with Port Sunshine, so the standard was much higher than normal.
@ again to be fair the question asked in which city was Mary Queen Of Scots imprisoned for 14 years. Knowing it was here is somewhat obscure so the question then added it was at the confluence of the Rivers Don and Sheaf. The clue's in the name...
What shape are all of these: warning signs on British roads BUZZ!...
In the weekly difficulties with UK geography they failed to identify Saltaire as the world heritage site indicated on the map* or to guess which city is on the River Sheaf @
* OK that's unfair: the guess was Skipton Castle, they then got New Lanark and Bournville in the bonuses after being told they were all model villages and were almost right with Port Sunshine, so the standard was much higher than normal.
@ again to be fair the question asked in which city was Mary Queen Of Scots imprisoned for 14 years. Knowing it was here is somewhat obscure so the question then added it was at the confluence of the Rivers Don and Sheaf. The clue's in the name...
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I got it but to be fair to the contestants I think the map was a bit innaccurate. I would have to have a look on iPlayer and freeze frame at the point the map was shown, but the location indicated seemed to be on more or less the same line of latitude as Lancaster and Bridlington, which is actually quite a few miles north of Saltaire.the cheesecake man wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 12:30 In the weekly difficulties with UK geography they failed to identify Saltaire as the world heritage site indicated on the map* or to guess which city is on the River Sheaf @
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You beat me to it, Owen.
Good questions, but I felt the maps were dodgy.
I felt that giving Fountains Abbey as the answer to a 19th C monument betrayed a lack of history (or desperation)
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Mary Queen of Scots wasn't imprisoned in any city, for 14 years or otherwise. At the time that Mary was imprisoned at Sheffield Manor, Sheffield was a town.the cheesecake man wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 12:30 @ again to be fair the question asked in which city was Mary Queen Of Scots imprisoned for 14 years. Knowing it was here is somewhat obscure so the question then added it was at the confluence of the Rivers Don and Sheaf. The clue's in the name...
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Yes, I thought it was well north of Saltaire too - my guess was Ribblehead Viaduct!owen b wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 14:11I got it but to be fair to the contestants I think the map was a bit innaccurate. I would have to have a look on iPlayer and freeze frame at the point the map was shown, but the location indicated seemed to be on more or less the same line of latitude as Lancaster and Bridlington, which is actually quite a few miles north of Saltaire.the cheesecake man wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 12:30 In the weekly difficulties with UK geography they failed to identify Saltaire as the world heritage site indicated on the map* or to guess which city is on the River Sheaf @
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Without wanting to get too off-topic, each aspect is typically made up of 5 lights (as per the regs), and proceed left and right are straight lines just at 45 degree angles. It's permitted to use solid symbols instead of individual 'dots' to make up the aspects, but the only place I've seen take this up is Blackpool Tramways in the area outside of their Starr Gate depot (the red units take the same format, but are non-TSRGD point position indicators - though TSRGD has no option for a point position indicator anyway).
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True of course, but pedantically calling it a town would probably have confused the contestants. If the question was "In which city is the location where Mary Queen Of Scots was imprisoned..." it would have been accurate. Actually it might have been, I didn't and couldn't quote it verbatim. If we're still unhappy perhaps we should complain to Paxo.
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Which of these counties does the M1 NOT pass through?
Warwickshire
Leicestershire
Derbyshire
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That should be easy for Sabrista but I thought it was a difficult question for "Joe Public".the cheesecake man wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 21:54 One from The Wheel
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Leicestershire
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So how did 'Joe Public' do?Ruperts Trooper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 21:56That should be easy for Sabrista but I thought it was a difficult question for "Joe Public".the cheesecake man wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 21:54 One from The Wheel
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Warwickshire
Leicestershire
Derbyshire
Northamptonshire
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The contestant gave the wrong answer, saying DerbyshireIAN wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 22:01So how did 'Joe Public' do?Ruperts Trooper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 21:56That should be easy for Sabrista but I thought it was a difficult question for "Joe Public".the cheesecake man wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 21:54 One from The Wheel
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Warwickshire
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Yes, considering the M1 gets within less than a mile from the wrong answer, it's not an easy one at all.Ruperts Trooper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 21:56That should be easy for Sabrista but I thought it was a difficult question for "Joe Public".the cheesecake man wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 21:54 One from The Wheel
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Leicestershire
Derbyshire
Northamptonshire
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